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[00:05:16] <coiax> Hey guys, would anyone be able to explain to me how MUC priviliges work?
[00:05:24] <coiax> Like operator, voice, that sort of thing
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[04:52:39] <honeyherm\40jabber.org> hy all
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[04:54:25] <nixon30866> im trying to setup psi using Jabber.org server but inform me that the sever does not suppor registration
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[05:28:28] <kevinaparton> Hey all
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[06:07:41] <PaulFertser> Hi there :)
[06:07:53] <PaulFertser> Do i get it right jabber.org is not taking part in IPv6 day?
[06:07:55] <PaulFertser> :(
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[06:50:57] <Kev> PaulFertser: There was talk about our host getting IPv6 in time, but then it didn't happen.
[06:51:16] <Kev> So we were planning to, but no, we won't be.
[06:51:24] <PaulFertser> Kev: hi there. Alas. You could have used a HE tunnel probably...
[06:52:06] <PaulFertser> Kev: btw, Google isn't quite ready either: imap.google.com lacks AAAA record.
[06:52:19] <Kev> Yes, we could have tunneled, but I was expecting to have native by now so didn't.
[06:52:39] <PaulFertser> The very http://www.worldipv6day.org/ site doesn't work nice from an ipv6-only internet :/
[06:53:46] <PaulFertser> As it references an ipv4-only resource.
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[06:58:37] <PaulFertser> How's going generally? Anything interesting happens?
[07:00:04] <Kev> Not particularly. We're having some weird network/traffic issues that're interrupting service from time to time, and Isode are soon to release a new major version that we'll probably deploy in a few months, which'll bring some interesting stuff.
[07:00:37] <czhan> looking for a skype alternative
[07:01:51] <PaulFertser> czhan: sip?
[07:02:03] <czhan> jingle protocol
[07:02:13] <Kev> Jitsu?
[07:03:17] <czhan> what's this?
[07:04:25] <Kev> It's a Jingle (and SIP) client.
[07:05:04] <czhan> Jitsi?
[07:06:49] <Kev> Yes, sorry.
[07:06:53] <Kev> SIP Communicator as was.
[07:07:08] <czhan> thnx
[07:07:45] <PaulFertser> Kev: are you still at Isode enjoying the job?
[07:07:50] <Kev> Yes thanks.
[07:08:12] <PaulFertser> I'm glad to hear that :)
[07:09:32] <PaulFertser> It's too often working with closed-source software is PITA due to loosy code quality and insane management...
[07:11:23] <Kev> Isode has a very high proportion of engineers, and very little management structure. It's good.
[07:12:41] <PaulFertser> \m/ way to go :)
[07:13:33] <Kev> (And most of what it does have are engineers themselves)
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[09:39:24] <ther> hello, a quick non-jabber question: anyone know of a text editor (preferably not vim!) able to accept command terminal piped input? E.g. grep ... | texteditor
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[09:42:12] <akuckartz> Why do you want to do that ?
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[09:42:27] <akuckartz> On which operating system
[09:42:29] <akuckartz> ?
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[09:43:18] <ther> using gnu/linux. One reason is to be able to see list of files in a tar ball without having to extract to a directory
[09:43:44] <ther> Anyway, realised I can use 'less'
[09:43:51] <akuckartz> ;-)
[09:44:40] <ther> Would be nice to be able to use an x11 text editor and then use regular expressions if need be.
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[09:49:08] <akuckartz> sed ...
[09:51:22] <ther> a quick look at the manual suggests I need to remember bash...
[09:55:11] <ther> How to find the most popular jabber rooms?
[09:56:41] <akuckartz> Good question. In addition to that I am interested in XMPP Jingle echo bots
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[10:07:24] <coward22852> hi there
[10:07:43] <coward22852> hey rahul man
[10:08:03] <coward22852> hey dudes
[10:08:06] <coward22852> have question
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[10:08:21] <coward22852> any one usee adhoc -command xmpp
[10:09:40] <coward22852> do you fuck guys answer
[10:09:49] <coward22852> or are simply bots
[10:11:39] <coward22852> are you awkkatz
[10:11:44] <coward22852> stupid mororn
[10:11:46] <coward22852> bastard
[10:11:48] <coward22852> answer
[10:11:51] <coward22852> you moron
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[10:12:25] <coward22852> hey u asshole
[10:13:13] <coward22852> are u able to read my query
[10:13:23] <coward22852> stupid ugly son of perverts
[10:13:51] <rahul> coward mind your language
[10:13:55] <coward22852> year
[10:14:02] <coward22852> who the fuck is rahul now
[10:14:09] <coward22852> ok mr rahul
[10:14:32] <rahul> ok
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[10:14:46] <coward22852> any other moro@Tanguy2 @Tanguy2
[10:15:02] <coward22852> hey ne othe rmoron listening
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[10:15:11] <coward22852> in this stupid idiotic scenario
[10:15:22] <coward22852> shut your jabber in your ass
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[10:16:03] <akuckartz> Tobias: can you please block that child? Thanks.
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[10:17:03] <hayes50561> can u read my message
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[10:17:17] <taft5061> how do i go about it
[10:17:26] <Tanguy2> I do read it.
[10:17:33] <hayes50561> ya man
[10:17:48] <hayes50561> am using jabber can u help me reading ad-hoc command of xmpp
[10:17:58] <hayes50561> tanguy dude am in real fix
[10:18:18] <Tanguy2> Sorry, I know almost nothing about ad-hoc command.
[10:18:33] <Tanguy2> I would have a look to the corresponding XEP if I was you.
[10:18:38] <hayes50561> ok man
[10:18:43] <hayes50561> any body else can help
[10:19:26] <taft5061> how can i communicate
[10:19:29] <hayes50561> @akuckartz hi dude can u read me am hayes
[10:19:34] <hayes50561> taft
[10:19:38] <hayes50561> stupid
[10:20:06] <hayes50561> ok
[10:20:14] <hayes50561> dude
[10:20:18] <hayes50561> can u help
[10:20:21] <hayes50561> me in xmpp
[10:21:05] <hayes50561> hey harry man @harrykar
[10:21:25] <hayes50561> stuff
[10:21:32] <hayes50561> am stuck with the ad-hoc command
[10:21:37] <hayes50561> but dont konw how to
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[10:22:12] <hayes50561> ne
[10:22:15] <hayes50561> one
[10:22:25] <hayes50561> ARE U ALL DEAF
[10:22:31] <hayes50561> I CANT SEE UR MESSAGES
[10:22:32] <hayes50561> MAN
[10:22:34] <Tanguy2> This deserves banning.
[10:22:39] <Tanguy2> Any operator here?
[10:22:53] <hayes50561> OPEARTOR IN MY ASS
[10:23:00] <louiz’> :)
[10:23:03] <hayes50561> SORRY IN YOUR Ass
[10:23:15] <louiz’> hayes50561, what’s wrong with ad-hoc command?
[10:23:32] <hayes50561> that ad-hoc is chewing my ass man
[10:23:37] <hayes50561> how to use it
[10:23:38] <hayes50561> please
[10:23:46] <louiz’> what client?
[10:23:50] <hayes50561> how to send those stupid xml stanzas
[10:24:00] <hayes50561> pigdin
[10:24:07] <hayes50561> man
[10:24:17] <hayes50561> if i type
[10:24:21] <Tanguy2> hayes50561, you should really use a more correct language. Yelling and insulting is not a good way to get help.
[10:24:23] <hayes50561> that wait
[10:24:41] <taft5061> ya hayes grow up
[10:24:43] <hayes50561> sorry man really got frustrated when none were replying
[10:25:10] <Tanguy2> Putting « man » in all your sentences is not pleasant either.
[10:25:17] <Tanguy2> This looks like too familiar.
[10:25:19] <hayes50561> ok dude
[10:25:24] <Tanguy2> …
[10:25:25] <PaulFertser> hey ma man dude
[10:25:26] <hayes50561> wont say man
[10:25:30] <PaulFertser> yo
[10:25:34] <hayes50561> ok dude
[10:25:36] <hayes50561> yo
[10:25:39] <hayes50561> cool right
[10:25:48] <Tanguy2> Anyway, I am sorry I do not have anwsers to help you.
[10:26:00] <louiz’> to send a stupid XML stanza, just send a message with pidgin
[10:26:11] <PaulFertser> Nah, won't work.
[10:26:16] <louiz’> :(
[10:26:20] <PaulFertser> You're to find some "xml console" in pidgin.
[10:26:25] <hayes50561> aoeh
[10:26:30] <hayes50561> ya that tried
[10:26:31] <hayes50561> wait
[10:26:37] <hayes50561> i will get u the output
[10:26:42] <PaulFertser> Google it or ask pidging users or just use a nice documented xmpp-only client.
[10:26:52] <PaulFertser> Usually xml console provides means for entering raw xml queries too.
[10:27:28] <taft5061> ok and if result shows service unavailable does it mean tht client doesnt support service
[10:27:48] <PaulFertser> The client? Depends on what you send.
[10:27:55] <taft5061> ok
[10:27:56] <PaulFertser> Read the corresponding XEP
[10:28:03] <hayes50561> <error xmlns='http://etherx.jabber.org/streams'> <invalid-from xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-streams'/> </error>
[10:28:03] <taft5061> ok thanks
[10:28:12] <hayes50561> i get this erro
[10:28:21] <PaulFertser> Probably malformed xml then from your side.
[10:28:23] <hayes50561> when i try the pigdin konsole
[10:28:28] <taft5061> ok
[10:28:40] <hayes50561> no i did configure 2 clients
[10:28:44] <hayes50561> one admin
[10:28:53] <hayes50561> one 12@ domain
[10:29:18] <hayes50561> and when i send this format in pigdin <iq type='get' to='responder@domain' from='requester@domain'> <query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info'/> </iq>
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[10:29:48] <hayes50561> but returns error dude
[10:29:58] <hayes50561> :(
[10:30:18] <hayes50561> paul dude
[10:30:20] <hayes50561> u there
[10:30:28] <PaulFertser> Yep
[10:30:31] <hayes50561> ok
[10:30:34] <hayes50561> any help
[10:30:37] <hayes50561> in this regard
[10:30:45] <PaulFertser> Try some simpler commands first, familiarise yourself with XMPP.
[10:31:13] <hayes50561> i tried the http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0050.html
[10:31:36] <hayes50561> so to test xml but obvious would be through pigdin through fedora 10
[10:31:51] <hayes50561> so where am i going wrong
[10:32:02] <hayes50561> coz we have to get counts of all the users online
[10:32:06] <hayes50561> in our app
[10:32:24] <hayes50561> so get the count of only online user would be to use the ad-hoc commands
[10:32:41] <hayes50561> paul can u still try to help
[10:34:03] <hayes50561> ne one who knows quite good about xmpp strophie
[10:34:05] <hayes50561> and stuff
[10:34:15] <hayes50561> since our program is all xmpp strophie
[10:34:30] <PaulFertser> hayes50561: man, i can't try all those commands right now, i've got work to do, dayjob you know :/
[10:35:00] <hayes50561> ooooeah
[10:35:04] <hayes50561> man ok no prob
[10:35:16] <hayes50561> paul u too software professional
[10:35:17] <hayes50561> ??
[10:36:29] <PaulFertser> Yes, embedded developer
[10:36:44] <hayes50561> probably any one else in this room who is readin this
[10:36:50] <hayes50561> can help ?
[10:37:13] <hayes50561> we were using strophie lib to parse the xml stanzas and all
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[10:37:30] <PaulFertser> Man i suggest you do not persist that hard with your questions, that's kinda annoying.
[10:37:34] <hayes50561> so u must be into C language right
[10:37:49] <PaulFertser> I am indeed :)
[10:37:55] <hayes50561> cool
[10:38:03] <hayes50561> i used t do that long back
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[10:38:36] <hayes50561> what softwres u man ?
[10:39:01] <hayes50561> what are ur products ?
[10:40:28] <PaulFertser> Niche avr and arm-based thingies, nothing of general interest. But i used to be an active member of the OpenMoko community and am still using my Freerunner.
[10:41:17] <hayes50561> cool that explains a lot
[10:42:32] <hayes50561> ok jabber dudes
[10:42:35] <hayes50561> nice chatting
[10:42:47] <hayes50561> i'll figure out something
[10:42:51] <hayes50561> to make the xmpp stuff work
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[16:26:38] <monroe52267> hi
[16:27:15] <stpeter> hi
[16:27:18] <stpeter> can we help you?
[16:28:19] <monroe52267> i just installed oneteam i cant figure out how to add different IM accounts to it
[16:30:10] <monroe52267> its somthing about jabber n XMPP only
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[19:42:15] <clinton19602> sexy hot
[19:51:04] <naw> sexy kick?
[19:51:19] <clinton19602> اي
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[20:06:46] <stpeter> /me wanders back in
[20:08:53] <louiz’> \o
[20:12:46] <naw> hey!
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[20:53:28] <pedahzur> Maybe OT, but: Has anyone had trouble connecting to google talk lately? It just "stopped" being connectable last night and I can't connect. The star just sits there throbbing...no error, no timeout. This is using Psi 0.15-dev (Jun 5 2011). Anyone having similar issues?
[20:53:55] <Lastwebpage> I have an idea...
[20:54:03] <Lastwebpage> today?
[20:54:15] <Lastwebpage> and it work yesterday?
[20:54:17] <pedahzur> Lastwebpage: Started last night.
[20:54:19] <pedahzur> Oh
[20:54:22] <pedahzur> IPv6
[20:54:33] <pedahzur> But I don't have IPv6 enabled on my system.
[20:54:38] <Lastwebpage> yes IPv6Day today on google
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[20:55:44] <Lastwebpage> who knows....
[20:57:39] <pedahzur> Odd
[20:57:51] <Lastwebpage> maybe google have internal IPv6 problems? ;)
[20:58:29] <Lastwebpage> I would wait for tomorrow
[21:08:10] <pedahzur> I suppose, yes.
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[22:23:21] <lemur> hey jabber heads
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[22:23:26] <stpeter> hey
[22:23:31] <lemur> I'm digging deep into the protocol here
[22:23:39] <stpeter> fun :)
[22:24:10] <lemur> my friend and I are pulling our hair out trying to figure out why file transfer proxies work or don't work
[22:24:42] <stpeter> you've tried different software for the proxies?
[22:24:55] <lemur> well we're still conducting tests
[22:25:03] <lemur> so far we're only been using Psi/Psi+
[22:25:12] <lemur> so what happens is dependent on Psi's behavior
[22:25:17] <stpeter> we've never conducted interop testing on the various codebases for SOCK5 Bytestreams
[22:25:20] <lemur> but we've so far tried different servers
[22:25:27] <lemur> and different proxies
[22:25:29] <stpeter> might be a good idea
[22:25:40] <lemur> right now the only thing that has worked for us is
[22:25:57] <lemur> when we're both on jabber.org and one of us sets our proxy to proxy.eu.jabber.org
[22:26:15] <lemur> when we try to set it to a proxy on another jabber server it never works
[22:26:35] <lemur> is there something in the server/protocol that only permits certain people from accessing the proxy
[22:27:01] <stpeter> we don't limit access to proxy.eu.jabber.org
[22:27:10] <stpeter> that reminds me, we need to rename it
[22:27:14] <lemur> ok so in theory anyone can use it even if both accounts are on a different server
[22:27:17] <stpeter> yes
[22:27:18] <lemur> yeah I noticed it's not in the EU :p
[22:27:23] <stpeter> well it is
[22:27:27] <lemur> :|
[22:27:36] <stpeter> it's hosted in Belgium or France, I can't remember
[22:27:38] <lemur> oh but the host resolves to the colorado server
[22:27:40] <lemur> itneresting
[22:28:08] <lemur> it could be we're having problems because something is wrong with Psi's behavior
[22:28:10] <stpeter> but foo.bar.baz.com is a problem for security reasons (you can't have *.*.baz.com in a cert)
[22:28:41] <lemur> because we're reading the packets and when the clients are negotiating a file transfer they both send a list of possible bytestream hosts
[22:28:50] <stpeter> right
[22:28:55] <lemur> but sometimes
[22:29:03] <lemur> even when we configure our accounts to use a certain proxy
[22:29:08] <lemur> our client doesn't send it
[22:29:15] <lemur> like it will be absent from the bystream host list
[22:29:53] <lemur> like when we were both on jabber.org and one of us set our proxy to proxy.neko.im, it never got included in the xml
[22:30:04] <lemur> but when he was connected to his account on neko.im, it did
[22:30:10] <stpeter> that sounds like a possible Psi bug
[22:30:16] <lemur> so we're wondering if somehow the server is interfering or Psi is being picky
[22:30:36] <lemur> our tests weren't that exhaustive but it almost seems like people can only use the proxy that's on their host server
[22:30:48] <lemur> we have yet to try other clients
[22:30:50] <stpeter> it sounds to me as if Psi is not honoring what you put in the config and instead is getting its proxy server from the xmpp server via service discovery (possibly)
[22:31:12] <lemur> yeah but when we don't manually specify a proxy then it doesn't discover it on its own
[22:31:19] <stpeter> hmph
[22:31:26] <lemur> I wish it auto-discovered the proxy lol
[22:31:33] <lemur> that sounds like a very logical feature
[22:31:41] <stpeter> well, it should
[22:31:46] <stpeter> that's what service discovery is for :)
[22:31:50] <lemur> yeah!
[22:32:07] <lemur> anyway we're a long way from figuring out what's going on
[22:32:22] <lemur> but I thought I'd gain more insight by asking you if there was anything in the protocol or server that would interfere
[22:32:27] <lemur> but now it's looking more like a Psi issue
[22:32:33] <stpeter> I think so
[22:32:41] <lemur> I thought maybe proxies only allowed connections from users of their own service
[22:32:44] <stpeter> at least, let's test that and then move on
[22:32:57] <stpeter> I don't think we have proxy.eu.jabber.org configured that way
[22:33:04] <stpeter> I'd need to double-check
[22:33:06] <lemur> hmm
[22:33:20] <stpeter> it's also possible that there are problems with server-to-server communication
[22:33:21] <lemur> now I was able to successfully send and receive files with talkonaut users
[22:33:24] <lemur> they have a different client
[22:33:27] <stpeter> yep
[22:33:35] <lemur> and they use their own proxy too
[22:33:40] <lemur> but Psi didn't have any problem with that
[22:34:05] <stpeter> interesting
[22:34:09] <lemur> my friend is using Psi+ which makes me suspicious that those Russians didn't monkey up the protocol but it actually looks like they left the protocol code untouched
[22:34:12] <stpeter> sorry, I need to step away here soon
[22:34:18] <lemur> no problem
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[22:34:22] <lemur> thanks for your help
[22:34:52] <stpeter> sure
[22:35:09] <stpeter> bbiab
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