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[07:07:17] <ananda.naphade\40gmail.com> Hi, i am developing a silverlight application in which i want to use XMPP free library. Or create a new XMPP library for silverlight. Please let me know how can i start with this development of new silverlight library. Thanks in advance.
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[12:19:06] <akuckartz@jabber.ccc.de> ananda.naphade: Maybe room jdev@conference.jabber.org is more appropriate for developer questions
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[14:16:19] <sharris85> naw i have search all night with no answer to my question, maybe i'm overlooking something or misreading it but please visit http://wiki.tcl.tk/11080 for a complete idea on what i'm looking for
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[14:18:44] <sharris85> to explain it is more like have to serperate rooms, one here on a jabber server, and the other on irc, but cross linking them
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[14:21:47] <naw> on that page you mean "Kroc: jabber.org.uk provides Tcl chatroom access with IRC and IM bridges (check the Discovery screenshot on the bottom of this page)." ? jabber.org.uk has an irc transport, but is not the kind of bridge that you are looking for
[14:22:13] <naw> anyway, why don't you just use a jabber transport?
[14:22:17] <naw> *an irc transport
[14:22:25] <sharris85> it seem you know more about what i'm trying to do
[14:22:34] <sharris85> i do have a transport
[14:22:42] <sharris85> draugr.de
[14:23:34] <sharris85> i would like to have to serperate room on a jabber conference server and the other on irc but link them
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[15:40:53] <sharris85> naw how do i use the transport
[15:42:47] <hesgoodboy> for icq?
[15:42:54] <naw> you can use it like if you were to join a jabber room with the address irc_channel%irc_server@transport_address
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[16:00:38] <sharris85> how can it be as to seperate rooms like ex piaf@conference.jabber.com and #piaf on irc.freenode.com
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[16:06:21] <naw> maybe with a bot or some kind of server complonent or plugin that sends and retrieve the messages from one to another, but I think that it willl be easier to instruct yourusers to use te transport
[16:06:58] <naw> you even could use addresses like xmpp:irc_channel%irc_server@transport_address?join
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[18:47:34] <Williamson, Margaret> hi, could someone tell me how to create a private group chat?
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[18:47:44] <stpeter> hi
[18:47:58] <stpeter> how private do you need?
[18:48:20] <Williamson, Margaret> i only need for my invited members to be able to join
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[18:48:28] <stpeter> it is easy to create chatrooms on this server
[18:48:30] <stpeter> ok
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[18:48:52] <stpeter> what IM client are you using?
[18:49:02] <Williamson, Margaret> jabber
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[18:49:07] <Williamson, Margaret> sorry
[18:49:08] <Williamson, Margaret> adium
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[18:49:22] <stpeter> not all IM clients give you access to the special "room administrator" settings
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[18:49:32] <stpeter> hmm ok, let me test with Adium
[18:49:55] <stpeter> I might need to install a new version, because I don't use that software every day
[18:50:38] <Williamson, Margaret> im sure i can figure it out - just wondering how to create a group chat
[18:50:42] <Williamson, Margaret> i see the "join group chat"
[18:50:44] <Williamson, Margaret> option
[18:50:56] <Williamson, Margaret> but then, what do i do from there? none of the things that i try work
[18:53:21] <stpeter> ik
[18:53:28] <stpeter> ok
[18:53:39] <stpeter> hmm
[18:54:02] <stpeter> so when you join a groupchat, specify the name of the room you wan
[18:54:04] <stpeter> want
[18:54:15] <stpeter> e.g., margaretstestroom or whatever
[18:54:33] <stpeter> then instead of accepting the default, click "configure room"
[18:54:51] <stpeter> you will see a configuration window
[18:55:06] <stpeter> click the "Members Only" checkbox
[18:57:45] <naw> does adium have a configure room button? if not maybe it will behave like pidgin, where you have to use "/config"
[18:57:47] <Williamson, Margaret> where do you find the "configure room" option?
[18:58:18] <stpeter> you find that option when you first create the room
[18:58:36] <stpeter> if you've already created the room, type "/config" in the text area
[18:58:38] <Williamson, Margaret> my problem is not knowing how to create the room in the first place
[18:58:44] <stpeter> (without the quotes :)
[18:59:01] <stpeter> however I don't see where in Adium you can edit the list of room members
[18:59:05] <stpeter> still looking
[19:00:46] <naw> stpeter: I guess that it will be like pidgin, /affiliate member nickname
[19:00:54] <naw> look at /help ;)
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[19:01:09] <naw> Williamson, Margaret: have you seen the join room dialog?
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[19:01:46] <peter> /me tests with Adium
[19:02:11] <Williamson, Margaret> if there's a way for you to tell me how to create the room in the first place, i think i can get the rest from the helpful instructions above
[19:02:30] <peter> you create a room by doing "join group chat" and typing whatever room name you want
[19:03:39] <Williamson, Margaret> "xyz is not a valid room name"
[19:03:46] <Williamson, Margaret> what is the format for a room name?
[19:03:52] <peter> no spaces
[19:04:13] <peter> and a few other characters are forbidden, like @ and '
[19:04:23] <Williamson, Margaret> ok good to know - and what "server" am i supposed to be on?
[19:04:30] <peter> I'm happy to create the room for you
[19:04:35] <peter> server is conference.jabber.org
[19:04:39] <peter> at least, that is this server
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[19:05:50] <Williamson, Margaret> thank you for bearing with me i know it's tedious to explain these things to novices
[19:06:02] <peter> that's why we're here :)
[19:07:10] <Williamson, Margaret> it's working!
[19:07:22] <peter> yay!
[19:20:46] <Williamson, Margaret> is there a way to send invites to chats?
[19:21:17] <naw> yes, but I don't know how adium does it
[19:21:25] <Williamson, Margaret> oh ok thanks
[19:21:47] <naw> stpeter: with /help do you see a /invite command or something like that?
[19:25:59] <peter> I don't see anything if I type /help
[19:26:00] <peter> /help
[19:26:06] <peter> see? ;-)
[19:26:55] <naw> oh, I thought that it would behave like pidgin
[19:27:06] <peter> there's nothing obvious in the Adium Help either
[19:28:14] <peter> /me looks at http://adium.im/help/
[19:28:25] <naw> http://nbcs.rutgers.edu/newdocs/jabber/images/Picture%2022.png
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[19:28:39] <naw> that image should help
[19:28:44] <peter> well there ya go!
[19:28:45] <peter> thanks
[19:29:43] <naw> :)
[19:29:55] <naw> taekn from http://nbcs.rutgers.edu/newdocs/jabber/adium_advanced.php
[19:29:57] <naw> *taken
[19:31:03] <naw> http://nbcs.rutgers.edu/newdocs/jabber/adium.php seems to be a good manual for adium and jabber/xmpp
[19:32:02] <Williamson, Margaret> ok great thank you
[19:32:04] <Williamson, Margaret> trying now..
[19:33:14] <peter> super
[19:33:57] <peter> I typically use the Psi client <http://psi-im.org/> for chatroom configuration, so I'm not familiar with how it's done in Adium
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[19:54:51] <peter> bbiab
[20:01:36] <Williamson, Margaret> one more question: will this chat that i made always be "available", or do i create a new one each morning
[20:01:41] <Williamson, Margaret> this is for a work group and will be used daily
[20:02:43] <naw> Williamson, Margaret: in the configuration you can make it persistent or temporary
[20:03:33] <Williamson, Margaret> great
[20:03:38] <Williamson, Margaret> thank you for all of your help!
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[20:55:32] <peter> naw: thanks to you, we have another satisfied customer :)
[20:55:49] <naw> :)
[20:56:36] <peter> plus I tested out Adium again -- it has OTR support, maybe I want to use it more often...
[20:57:07] <naw> how are the new encription specs going?
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[20:57:19] <peter> well :)
[20:57:34] <peter> in fact I have offered to help the OTR team publish an RFC for their technology
[20:59:20] <naw> MUC encryption is still out of the scope of the specs?
[20:59:36] <peter> MUC encryption might be possible with OTR
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[21:03:54] <naw> so, the historical OpenPGP and the (never-seen-in-the-wild) S/MIME support will be dropped?
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[21:04:35] <peter> I expect so
[21:04:47] <peter> I mean, OTR is out there and it works
[21:04:54] <peter> so I think we might as well use it
[21:05:19] <naw> OTR has some mean to verify the identity of the other person?
[21:05:24] <peter> yes
[21:05:28] <naw> good
[21:05:47] <peter> http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/Protocol-v2-3.1.0.html has all the details
[21:06:16] <naw> I did read the whitepaper time ago, but I don't remember the details
[21:06:35] <peter> there are a lot of details :)
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