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[11:13:59] <wjt> suppose i have pinned an invalid certificate to my xmpp account in my client (to say “yes, i trust this certificate for this account”), and then the server presents me with a different certificate, whose identity checks out fine without needing to prompt me. should we notify the user that the certificate has changed? should we remove the pinned certificate, so that if the server switches back to it the user is prompted afresh? or should we keep all pinned certificates for an account forever? RFC6125 §6.6 is not really clear on this point
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[11:18:44] <Kev> Well, that's a fun question.
[11:19:50] <Kev> I guess "You have previously accepted an untrusted certificate: X for this service, which is now offering a trusted certificate Y. Would you like to remove the exception for X and use trusted certificates in future?" is a bit unpleasant :)
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[11:40:45] <wjt> Kev: right. real-life discussion here makes us think that we should keep all the certs the user has ever pinned, at least for a while after they stop showing up: what if you're connecting to one of two servers via DNS round robin and one of them has the old cert for a while, for instance
[11:41:03] <wjt> Kev: and not prompt the user for the pinned → trusted anyway transition
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