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[05:30:58] <petya> Hello! Can you ask a question, please: is it possible to protect a chat room on the jabber.org server with a captcha?
[05:34:54] <petya> is anybody here?
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[05:59:38] <anonymous14223> hello
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[08:39:27] <xa0c> Did anybody mention, that gmail.com users in your roaster stay active after they went off?
[08:39:54] <xa0c> (for jabber.org account)
[08:40:55] <Tanguy> I am not using jabber.org but I experienced that too.
[08:41:01] <Tanguy> The problem is on Google's side I think.
[08:41:36] <xa0c> thnx. i'll try to test it with another account too
[08:47:29] <xa0c> yes. this seams to be a google-side problem
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[08:55:20] <Tanguy> Did you try with an account at jabber.org or from something else?
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[09:28:03] <xa0c> i tried with jabber.org and gajim.org
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[09:32:41] <xa0c> hmmm... tried again. but gajim.org has no problems
[09:33:45] <xa0c> the contact gone offline. but in jabber.org its still online
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[09:57:32] <psychotic> my gtalk contacts don´t even show up as online, even though they are. Is there some kind of problem with either jabber.org
or gtalk´s servers?
[10:00:06] <psychotic> ik ben zooo benieuwd naar hoe dat gaat werken op de dikkere bak :D
[10:00:41] <psychotic> woops, wrong tab. Sorry about that.
[10:00:56] <xa0c> np )
[10:01:29] <psychotic> so anyhow, I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing the same kind of problem as I am
[10:02:24] <xa0c> when gmail.com contacts go online - I see it
[10:03:10] <xa0c> but when they go offline - nothing happens
[10:03:22] <xa0c> thay are still shown as online
[10:04:18] <xa0c> i have to reconnect to jabber.org account to see the changes in treir statuses
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[10:10:53] <psychotic> hmm, odd
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[17:29:52] <drivebydave> hello, i am new to jabber and am looking for help with setting up jabber into my phpbb forum
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[17:36:49] <drivebydave> hello is there anyone in here that can help??
[17:36:57] <stpeter> hi
[17:37:15] <stpeter> sorry, I was concentrating on a document review
[17:37:17] <stpeter> what's up?
[17:37:36] <stpeter> I must say I have never done anything with phpbb
[17:37:43] <stpeter> however, we periodically receive questions about that here
[17:38:08] <stpeter> doesn't phpbb have a FAQ or README of some sort about this? IMHO it is probably a phpbb configuration issue
[17:40:48] <drivebydave> well in settings it asks for server?
[17:40:59] <drivebydave> i have no idea about servers
[17:41:06] <stpeter> hmm
[17:41:28] <drivebydave> i understand what a server is but not certain which to use
[17:41:42] <drivebydave> for jabber chat in a forum
[17:41:47] <stpeter> I don't know if that mean (in phpbb) whether you need to run your own jabber server
[17:42:02] <drivebydave> can i do that?
[17:42:06] <stpeter> sure
[17:42:12] <stpeter> I run my own server
[17:42:15] <stpeter> plenty of people do
[17:42:22] <stpeter> it's like running your own forum
[17:42:29] <drivebydave> does it rob me of much bandwidth?
[17:42:32] <stpeter> no
[17:42:37] <stpeter> it's just text :)
[17:42:46] <stpeter> it's not like you're running a video mixer or something :)
[17:42:47] <drivebydave> ok how do i run my own chat server
[17:43:08] <stpeter> well, first you need to verify with the phpbb folks whether you need to run your own jabber server
[17:43:24] <stpeter> then you need to pick a jabber server to run, just like you picked forum software to run
[17:44:25] <stpeter> we have a list at http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/servers/
[17:44:42] <drivebydave> just asks for a server so i guess my own would be as good as any....
[17:44:51] <stpeter> the most popular ones are probably Openfire, Prosody, and ejabberd, but there are other server software packages out there
[17:44:55] <stpeter> right
[17:45:12] <drivebydave> one question
[17:45:35] <stpeter> http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=488306 is old but perhaps useful
[17:45:48] <drivebydave> im now thinking my own server might nt be a great idea....if i turn computer off i guess server is off??
[17:46:03] <stpeter> if you turn your computer off, is phpbb off?
[17:46:11] <drivebydave> no
[17:46:20] <stpeter> where does your phpbb server live?
[17:46:27] <stpeter> on a hosting service?
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[17:46:55] <drivebydave> its hosted by my free forum.....paid for i guess by advertisers
[17:47:01] <stpeter> aha ok
[17:47:10] <stpeter> so that might not work
[17:47:24] <stpeter> if you had a hosting service like, say, Dreamhost, then you could run your own jabber server
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[17:47:30] <stpeter> e.g. http://discussion.dreamhost.com/thread-100511.html
[17:47:37] <drivebydave> i need ppl to be able to use it whilst im not online
[17:47:54] <drivebydave> does it cost to use
[17:47:57] <Kev> Don't Dreamhost run some truly ancient version of jabberd that doesn't really work?
[17:48:06] <drivebydave> i dont have an income at the moment
[17:48:07] <stpeter> haha
[17:48:07] <stpeter> yeah
[17:48:16] <stpeter> drivebydave: sorry to hear it
[17:48:54] <stpeter> brb
[17:49:07] <drivebydave> so is it possible to create a private chatroom open all the time for ppl from my forum?
[17:49:21] <drivebydave> using a free server?
[17:51:43] <drivebydave> im new to jabber....i used to use xat for forum chat but new phpbb has jabber built in
[17:52:13] <stpeter> yes, you can create chatrooms on this server here
[17:52:58] <drivebydave> can they be made private....obviously i dont need non forum members jumping in
[17:53:06] <stpeter> yes, they can
[17:53:29] <stpeter> you can make the room password-protected or members-only (but you need to configure the membership)
[17:53:48] <drivebydave> is this server jabber@conference.jabber.org?
[17:54:06] <stpeter> yes
[17:54:07] <stpeter> um
[17:54:08] <stpeter> well
[17:54:14] <stpeter> this room is jabber@conference.jabber.org
[17:54:30] <stpeter> if you create another room, it will be your-room-name@conference.jabber.org
[17:55:01] <drivebydave> ahh i see.....so server name is conference.jabber.org
[17:55:46] <stpeter> yes
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[17:56:27] <drivebydave> now i need to learn how to create a room...
[17:56:37] <stpeter> what IM client do you use?
[17:56:57] <drivebydave> at the moment im using pidgin
[17:57:59] <stpeter> if you choose "join chatroom" or somesuch, the room will be created for you if it doesn't exist already
[17:58:32] <drivebydave> so i type a name i like into "Room" to see if it's available
[17:59:10] <stpeter> right
[18:00:42] <drivebydave> what is setting "Real JID's visible to:" ???
[18:01:01] <stpeter> usually people in the room can see only your nickname
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[18:01:46] <stpeter> e.g., they would see something like Jaxån but not Jaxån's actual username
[18:01:59] <drivebydave> ok....
[18:02:25] <stpeter> his username might be something totally different, like callmeishmael@jabber.ru or whatever :)
[18:02:36] <drivebydave> what is a sensible setting for history length
[18:02:43] <stpeter> however, the rom admins can always see the real username
[18:02:47] <stpeter> 20 seems fine
[18:04:39] <drivebydave> i created a room....how do i invite specific ppl ?
[18:04:53] <drivebydave> do they need to have jabber account?
[18:04:55] <stpeter> you can invite them from your buddy list in Pidgin, I think
[18:04:58] <stpeter> yes, they do
[18:05:22] <drivebydave> can they not sign in with say fb chat or gmail chat
[18:06:09] <stpeter> gmail is jabber, so that works
[18:06:14] <stpeter> fb is sort of jabber :)
[18:07:01] <drivebydave> yeah thats wht i read so hence i thought i could invite them into my room
[18:07:06] <drivebydave> is this not the case
[18:07:10] <MattJ> The issue with Facebook is that they don't allow users to communicate outside their own server
[18:07:18] <drivebydave> oh poo
[18:07:26] <drivebydave> how about gmail
[18:07:31] <MattJ> They do
[18:07:37] <MattJ> They're the good guys :)
[18:07:38] <drivebydave> ok thats cool
[18:07:46] <drivebydave> i love google
[18:07:59] <drivebydave> they are gonna take over the world
[18:08:04] <MattJ> I love them as much as anyone can love a multi-billion dollar company
[18:08:14] <drivebydave> lol
[18:08:29] <stpeter> MattJ: are you some kind of anarcho-syndicalist? ;-)
[18:08:32] <drivebydave> but at least they have embraced opensource
[18:09:29] <MattJ> stpeter, depends who's asking :)
[18:10:01] <stpeter> MattJ: I bet you're one of those people who still listens to folk music, too ;-)
[18:10:08] <MattJ> Sshh!
[18:10:22] <stpeter> ;-)
[18:10:24] <stpeter> brb
[18:14:51] <stpeter> /me beats his inbox down below 100 messages again before heading to lunch
[18:16:40] <drivebydave> thanks for help
[18:23:19] <stpeter> below 65, not bad
[18:23:23] <stpeter> time for lunch, bbiab
[18:46:55] <xa0c> stpeter, have a nice lunch
[18:49:26] <xa0c> I've noticed strange thing. gmail.com users in roaster stay active after they go off
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[19:31:55] <boscop> does anyone know a working public JMC transport for mail notification?
[19:32:33] <louiz’> JMC ?
[19:32:35] <Tarkan.yelsiz> هاي
[19:32:42] <boscop> jabber mail component
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[23:05:19] <mourad.love> لد
[23:06:37] <mourad.love> :-)
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