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[08:59:02] <anonymous30645> hello everyone, since monday I've problems to connect to my jabber.org account and when I am connected all requests are very slow, do you have any idea why ?
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[10:36:50] <xa0c> hi all. does gmail contacts in your roasters look offline? but really they are online!
[10:37:17] <xa0c> does anyone have such problem?
[10:41:46] <louiz’> hum, no.
[10:41:59] <louiz’> But I’m not using the jabber.org server
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[14:31:53] <ноомαи> hi
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[14:32:03] <ноомαи> I need help
[14:32:10] <ноомαи> somebody help
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[14:55:19] <Andrew K.> I can't seem to be able to be able to talk to a @jabber.org account from a gtalk account but messages work the other way from jabber->gmail, but it was working for me the other day, what might be causing that?
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[16:10:35] <coolidge48526> Hi guys I am new here and I have a few questions. Can anyone answer them preferably someone that helps create jabber?
[16:11:24] <louiz’> hum, who creates jabber? :D
[16:11:35] <louiz’> but, please ask, and someone will eventually answer.
[16:11:50] <coolidge48526> LOL
[16:12:40] <louiz’> really.
[16:13:17] <coolidge48526> Ok my company has been looking for a good solid messenger program for several reasons. WE want something that uses AD so we can have access to all of our people but we would like something that would also be able to talk to other messenger programs but secure. Any ideas?
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[16:13:45] <louiz’> AD?
[16:13:49] <louiz’> ah, access directory?
[16:14:01] <coolidge48526> yes
[16:15:23] <coolidge48526> Or should I say are we shooting to high for what we are looking for?
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[16:16:07] <louiz’> I think that’s possible, but I do not know about AD, so I cannot help you
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[16:16:48] <louiz’> but I think ejabberd supports AD, no?
[16:17:22] <coolidge48526> Basically I wants something that can talk to the exchange server and get info from there for users for logins but I also want something that will talk to other messengers since my people do alot of conversations outside of the internal
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[16:17:57] <Tanguy2> It supports LDAP.
[16:17:57] <Tanguy2> AD had an LDAP interface I think.
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[16:19:15] <coolidge48526> Will it pull user information from exchange so people can login with current credentials is one of the many things I would like to know.
[16:19:52] <coolidge48526> And will it talk to outside messengers like aim, yahoo, skype, ect.
[16:19:52] <louiz’> yes, with LDAP
[16:20:03] <coolidge48526> Cool
[16:20:36] <louiz’> and yes, you can have gateway to aim, yahoo and maybe skype, but the employee will need to create accounts on these protocols.
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[16:21:20] <coolidge48526> Awww. so it will not allow you to use the credentials you have created internally to use external messengers?
[16:21:45] <Tanguy2> Please note that some of these gateway may be forbidden by your contracts with the corresponding providers.
[16:22:08] <coolidge48526> Ok. Why might that be?
[16:22:08] <Tanguy2> Of course not. In order to use an external service you need to have credentials on it.
[16:22:25] <louiz’> and since you don’t control them, you cannot
[16:23:08] <Tanguy2> Well, for instance, the contract for .NET Messenger Service, which is Microsoft instance messaging service, forbids to use it with another client than Windows Live Messenger.
[16:23:08] <louiz’> but why would you use MSN or AIM in your enterprise?
[16:23:16] <coolidge48526> Ok. So I think I have one more complex question for now. Is there a server I can install and then the clients that I can install on the machine or is it just clients I have to install.
[16:23:41] <coolidge48526> Some of our guys have outside people they talk to through those messengers. Much to our dismay
[16:24:28] <Tanguy2> I do not understand your last question.
[16:24:35] <coolidge48526> Mostly google talk here that they use but same princibles
[16:24:49] <Tanguy2> Google Talk is a Jabber service!
[16:24:54] <Link Mauve> Google talk uses XMPP.
[16:24:54] <Tanguy2> No need for a gateway…
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[16:25:12] <coolidge48526> Oh sweet that saves me a headache...lol
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[16:26:03] <Tanguy> Thus, with an enterprise Jabber account, you can directly talk with a Google Talk user, as well as a jabber.org user or whatever other Jabber service.
[16:26:06] <coolidge48526> Tanguy2. I am wondering if I need to setup jabber on its own server or is it a server side thing I have to install to have it work internally with AD
[16:26:06] <Tanguy> Just like email.
[16:27:09] <Tanguy> You have to install a Jabber server, and configure it to use your enterprise LDAP for authentication, and perhaps also for VCards.
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[16:27:47] <coolidge48526> Ok that is what I needed to know
[16:27:55] <Tanguy> Okay, now I have got to go, see you.
[16:27:58] <coolidge48526> Thank you guys so much for the help
[16:27:58] <stpeter> coolidge48526: if you want IM addresses like user@coolidge48526.com or whatever your company is, then typically you will want to install server software somewhere in your network so that you can control over the deployment
[16:28:31] <coolidge48526> stpeter That is kind of what we are looking for
[16:28:39] <Tanguy> Oh yes, indeed, specially if you want to be able to talk to or join rooms on external Jabber services.
[16:28:41] <coolidge48526> Does jabber have something like that
[16:28:55] <stpeter> coolidge48526: another possibility is to use a hosting service like Google Apps
[16:29:00] <Tanguy> You need network access to and from the Internet from and to your Jabber server, plus some DNS to configure.
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[16:29:11] <Tanguy> Again, just like email.
[16:29:25] <Tanguy> Now, see you later.
[16:29:28] <stpeter> coolidge48526: yes, there are many free and some commercial servers available -- see http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/servers/
[16:29:36] <stpeter> oops, he's gone
[16:29:39] <Link Mauve> stpeter, I don't think google can connect to their enterprise LDAP server.
[16:29:39] <louiz’> yeah, install your own server (ejabberd, prosody, openfire…), setup it to use your LDAP/AD database, and that’s it
[16:29:52] <louiz’> oops, he’s gone²
[16:30:01] <coolidge48526> Google wont work for what we need
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[16:30:07] <stpeter> Link Mauve: oh true -- sorry, I came into the conversation a bit late
[16:30:10] <louiz’> (and that’s me or this room as a huge lag?)
[16:30:26] <stpeter> louiz’: all of jabber.org has huge lag right now
[16:30:29] <coolidge48526> Huge lag not you
[16:30:29] <louiz’> has*
[16:30:35] <louiz’> ok.
[16:31:20] <coolidge48526> Ok I will look at some of these and see what I can come up with. I just hope I can find something that will work the way I need it..
[16:32:07] <coolidge48526> We were looking for something that is easy install and works right out of the box with few tweeks for AD
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[18:21:46] <gaul> is there an outage with jabber and gtalk? I have not been able to see any google buddies since yesterday
[18:22:15] <gaul> I can see a non-gtalk non-jabber buddy
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[18:44:55] <stpeter> hi gaul
[18:45:30] <stpeter> are you still seeing problems?
[18:45:51] <stpeter> we restarted jabber.org a little while ago and things seem fine now -- at least I can see people online at gmail.com, google.com, etc.
[18:45:58] <gaul> stpeter: this is really weird but my buddies started reappearing in the last 15 minutes
[18:46:02] <gaul> slowly, one-by-one
[18:46:06] <stpeter> hmm
[18:46:27] <stpeter> as I said, we restarted jabber.org and that might have solved some temprorary problems
[18:46:28] <stpeter> brb
[18:47:22] <gaul> stpeter: thanks, it does seem to improve it. where is the best way to monitor this kind of stuff? I follow the Jabber RSS feed but didn't see anything on there
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[18:54:02] <stpeter> gaul: we post to identi.ca and Twitter
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[18:54:38] <stpeter> http://identi.ca/jabberdotorg and http://twitter.com/#!/jabberdotorg
[18:54:43] <xa0c> stpeter, thnx for the fix and info
[18:55:11] <gaul> excellent, this is exactly what I hoped for. Thanks!
[18:55:18] <stpeter> sure thing!
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[19:01:40] <akuckartz@jabber.ccc.de> Thanks. Now @jabberdotorg got yet another follower on Twitter ;-)
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[19:03:13] <stpeter> yes, I noticed :)
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[21:22:15] <gustopn> hi
[21:22:28] <gustopn> does this conference server not allow to register chatrooms?
[21:23:21] <gustopn> because i did try out some /issues and he gave me an error to /register
[21:24:04] <louiz’> register, what do you mean?
[21:24:10] <louiz’> To make a room persistant?
[21:24:16] <gustopn> i dont know, i am new to conference on xmpp
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[21:24:19] <gustopn> maybe
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[21:24:59] <gustopn> is there some manual to conferences on xmpp?
[21:26:56] <louiz’> hum, I don’t know
[21:27:03] <gustopn> well
[21:27:15] <gustopn> so we are more who are clueless
[21:27:27] <louiz’> zat
[21:27:29] <louiz’> wat*
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[21:37:36] <gustopn> louiz’: you have fedora 15 installed?
[21:37:51] <gustopn> louiz’: what IM client do you use?
[21:38:08] <louiz’> gustopn, yes
[21:38:17] <louiz’> you mean my client ? That’s poezio
[21:44:13] <gustopn> whats that?
[21:44:37] <gustopn> this http://poezio.eu/en/ ?
[21:45:07] <louiz’> yes, that
[21:45:07] <gustopn> that looks like irssi
[21:45:14] <louiz’> and weechat, yes
[21:45:17] <louiz’> that’s the goal
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[21:46:44] <gustopn> louiz’: so you dont care about gnome3, right?
[21:47:35] <louiz’> indeed, I do not use gnome
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[22:00:44] <gustopn> what do you use? awesomewm?
[22:02:11] <louiz’> no, openbox
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[22:09:08] <gustopn> openbox on fedora 15
[22:09:26] <gustopn> what is your motivation to use fedora however?
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[22:11:31] <louiz’> I like RPMs, I like the devs (the devel ML, etc), I like how the software are somewhat recent, etc
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[22:32:50] <gustopn> louiz’: what do you mean by "devs"?
[22:33:22] <louiz’> developpers
[22:34:00] <gustopn> you like the developers?
[22:37:56] <ThurahT> Hey. louiz’, thats a really nice layout.. I like.
[22:38:36] <louiz’> what layout?
[22:38:45] <ThurahT> on poezio
[22:38:52] <louiz’> ThurahT, cool :)
[22:39:03] <louiz’> gustopn, yeah, I like the way the packaging is done, the devel mailing lists, etc
[22:39:05] <ThurahT> black background FTW..
[22:39:09] <louiz’> :)
[22:39:43] <gustopn> louiz’: OK, now i understand
[22:39:54] <gustopn> louiz’: i thaught you like them personally
[22:40:19] <ThurahT> open box.. I have to check that out. Thought it was "awesome window manager" also..
[22:40:36] <gustopn> hm
[22:40:42] <gustopn> awesomewm is better
[22:40:51] <gustopn> i tried openbox out, i didnt like it
[22:41:39] <ThurahT> me gusta : )
[22:41:57] <ThurahT> anyways. HTG.. take care all
[22:41:58] <louiz’> I’m not really using a lot of features of openbox
[22:42:09] <louiz’> since most of my apps are in tmux
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[22:42:30] <gustopn> tmux? what is tmux?
[22:42:40] <louiz’> like screen
[22:45:51] <louiz’> http://pix.louiz.org/upload/original/1308091466.png gustopn, the thing letting me have all the console apps with this layout
[22:46:55] <louiz’> the only software not running in a console are thunderbird, firefox and emacs
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[23:30:05] <gustopn> louiz’: thats your screen?
[23:30:10] <louiz’> yes
[23:30:13] <gustopn> cool
[23:30:20] <gustopn> you have a desktop pc?
[23:30:36] <louiz’> yes, and two screens
[23:30:44] <gustopn> two monitors?
[23:31:34] <louiz’> yes
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[23:32:38] <gustopn> samsung or LG?
[23:33:11] <louiz’> euh, no
[23:33:16] <louiz’> I don’t know
[23:33:26] <louiz’> ViewSonic, it seems
[23:33:43] <gustopn> you dont know what is the brand of your screens you are sitting in fron of?
[23:33:46] <gustopn> thats strange
[23:33:56] <louiz’> I don’t care, that’s why
[23:34:00] <gustopn> hm
[23:34:04] <louiz’> but yeah, that’s written on it
[23:34:07] <gustopn> but you bought it, or not?
[23:34:12] <louiz’> that’s an old CRT
[23:34:14] <louiz’> nope
[23:34:15] <gustopn> ah
[23:34:29] <gustopn> so you have old CRT's?
[23:35:01] <gustopn> two crt's .. are you not afraid that they may harm your eyes?
[23:35:24] <louiz’> no, way?
[23:35:28] <louiz’> why*…
[23:36:04] <gustopn> CRT's are harmful
[23:36:35] <louiz’> ah
[23:36:42] <louiz’> I’m not hurt
[23:38:03] <gustopn> where is emacs?
[23:38:22] <louiz’> on an other desktop
[23:38:25] <louiz’> not in console
[23:38:38] <louiz’> I prefer the graphical Emacs