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[11:06:32] <age> hi
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[12:26:12] <Центр> any traffic here?
[12:26:47] <Kev> Sometimes.
[12:27:02] <louiz’> yep
[12:27:31] <akuckartz@jabber.ccc.de> yes, but S/N ratio is low
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[12:31:32] <Kev> Such is the way of help channels.
[12:33:49] <louiz’> :)
[12:39:50] <Centre> I wonder where one can find a list of popular jabber conferences
[12:39:54] <Centre> If any
[12:40:54] <Centre> Each of those I found looks abandoned
[12:41:44] <louiz’> yeah, that’s sad
[12:43:31] <akuckartz> They were popular and are now abandoned?
[12:50:13] <louiz’> no, they were never popular :)
[12:50:18] <louiz’> most of the time
[12:50:36] <Centre> I know nothing of their past, but I can definitely say they're dead now.
[12:50:44] <louiz’> yep
[12:51:17] <akuckartz> Ok, so there is no general trend from popular to abandoned
[12:52:03] <Kev> Lots of people create a room, make it persistent and then immediately abandon it.
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[16:12:34] <geek085> hey
[16:12:53] <geek085> joined the discuss room
[16:13:00] <geek085> noone there
[16:13:23] <geek085> would someone tell me why?
[16:16:25] <geek085> oh yeah.. i can see why
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[17:22:59] <pierce52968> hello
[17:23:17] <Centre> coo
[17:23:30] <pierce52968> i have a question! :)
[17:23:55] <naw> ask it!
[17:24:09] <pierce52968> there's a way to see a connection log?
[17:24:25] <pierce52968> on the server.
[17:25:10] <naw> server admins will be able to see the logs
[17:25:42] <naw> but they won't give them to anybody :p
[17:25:48] <pierce52968> yes
[17:25:49] <Centre> pierce52968, ask them to show it to you :)
[17:25:51] <Kev> Well.
[17:25:53] <pierce52968> I suoppose
[17:25:54] <Kev> It depends what you ask for.
[17:26:09] <Kev> If you want to know how many people are connected you'll likely get an answer.
[17:26:10] <pierce52968> just to see if all the my connections start from my device
[17:26:14] <pierce52968> s
[17:26:15] <Kev> Just nothing personally identifiable.
[17:26:45] <pierce52968> just know time and date of my connections
[17:28:02] <pierce52968> my idea was to login in a private area of the site and see my connections logs.
[17:28:07] <pierce52968> just this
[17:28:08] <pierce52968> :)
[17:28:33] <Kev> Yeah, you can't do that.
[17:28:53] <pierce52968> could you explain me ?
[17:29:24] <pierce52968> jabber.org doesn't have a login area
[17:29:42] <Kev> Correct.
[17:29:59] <pierce52968> how to do ...
[17:30:10] <Kev> How to do what?
[17:30:27] <pierce52968> login in a private area and see my connections log
[17:30:34] <Kev> This is a very circular conversation.
[17:30:36] <Kev> You can't do that.
[17:30:39] <pierce52968> lol
[17:30:48] <pierce52968> sorry
[17:31:06] <pierce52968> bad reading
[17:31:07] <pierce52968> :)
[17:31:42] <Centre> pierce52968, there's an indirect way I can suggest: create a new account, add yourself as a contact and watch your account
as long as you need.
[17:31:59] <Kev> Centre: Why would you need a second account to do that?
[17:32:40] <pierce52968> another simple question
[17:32:49] <Kev> All of your sessions get told when you start a new session.
[17:33:05] <pierce52968> if i ask to support@jabber.org to check if a connection started in date/time
[17:33:10] <Centre> heh.. that's right...
[17:33:12] <pierce52968> support could answer me?
[17:33:22] <Kev> Does that address even exist?
[17:35:21] <naw> Kev: it should be a reserved address redirected to an admin account
[17:35:43] <Kev> It should?
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[17:51:12] <naw> Kev: I think that the addresses that look administrative should be reserved
[17:52:28] <naw> that reminds me that some CAs are too much liberal with the addresses that they support in the certification process...
[17:53:19] <Kev> If we tried to reserve all the JIDs that looked administrative, we'd never finish.
[17:56:16] <naw> http://www.securitybydefault.com/2010/04/yo-soy-vodafonees-y-orangemailes-y.html <- in spanish only, sorry,
the idea was that some email providers allowed the registration of ssladmin@domain, and that email was able to get a cert
from comodo for the domain
[18:12:16] <stpeter> :)
[18:12:37] <stpeter> naw: that is a failure by Comodo
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[18:13:44] <stpeter> naw: in my experience, responsible CAs use only the email addresses from RFC 2142
[18:16:34] <naw> stpeter: some CAs are like banks, too big to fall so they can be irresponsible
[18:17:04] <naw> Comodo had many problems in the last months
[18:21:05] <stpeter> yes, I noticed :)
[18:22:12] <stpeter> /me decides that it's time to eat lunch
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[18:51:35] <niek@bergnetworks.com> stpeter: have a good one :)
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[23:05:06] <Paul> Hi, I was hoping get help with a question about jabber.org conference rooms
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[23:08:35] <louiz’> ask
[23:10:06] <Paul> Thanks. I am using Spark as my client, and I can create a conference room just fine; but it never shows up when I browse
conference.jabber.org; though the "Persistent?" box is checked.
[23:10:29] <Paul> I'd like to create a standing room for me and my colleagues, but I have to re-create it each time.
[23:15:14] <Paul> Is there something else I need to do to make sure a conference room is persistent? Or am I stuck creating it anew each day?
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[23:18:14] <Paul> The FAQ at http://www.jabber.org/faq/#chatrooms indicates that it should be that easy. But that I should inquire here if
I have any questions.
[23:18:24] <naw> but it never shows up when I browse conference.jabber.org; though the "Persistent?" box is checked. <- the option is publicly
listed
[01:10:29] <Paul> I'd like to create a standing room for me and my colleagues, but I have to re-create it each time. <- that
shouldn't happen if you activate the "persistent" option
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