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[10:55:27] <Neustradamus> Jappix 0.6 "Lumo" has been released https://project.jappix.com/
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[11:19:38] <Alex> Neustradamus: cool
[11:20:48] <Neustradamus> Alex: :)
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[12:26:51] <Alex> is there smth in the RFC which disallows routing of iqs when a client did not send the initial presence. I mean Iq C <==> C, not C => server like roster
[12:27:25] <MattJ> Alex, no, not that I'm aware
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[12:27:45] <MattJ> But on the other hand, if you don't have presence for someone you can't send them an iq unless you know their resource
[12:28:31] <Alex> MattJ: ya, its an edge case with hardcoded resources
[12:29:42] <Hermitifier> Ejabberd has a bug that lets you get the names of resources even if contact didn't send initial presence.
[12:31:11] <MattJ> Hermitifier, wow, do share :)
[12:31:31] <Hermitifier> MattJ: do service items discovery on bare jid.
[12:31:36] <MattJ> Nice :)
[12:31:44] <Hermitifier> It works only on subscribed contacts
[12:31:53] <MattJ> Interesting
[12:31:56] <Hermitifier> And I don't think it works across servers.
[12:32:39] <Hermitifier> And it reveals connected resources - regardless of privacy lists or missing presence broadcast
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[19:05:02] <ivucica> Hi!
[19:05:35] <ivucica> Has someone worked with libjingle and an external XMPP library, for purposes of establishing a non-voice session?
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[19:37:34] <MattJ> ivucica, if you have no response try the mailing list - more people on there
[19:38:01] <MattJ> I believe I got libjingle working for non-voice some years ago, but I really doubt I could help you much
[19:38:07] <ivucica> MattJ Trying to avoid subscribing to yet another interesting mailing list I would have no heart unsubscribing from :)
[19:38:21] <MattJ> I know how you feel :)
[19:38:44] <ivucica> MattJ, if you have any code samples that are simpler than what Google's offering, and/or that don't use their XMPP stack...
[19:38:49] <ivucica> :)
[19:38:58] <MattJ> I'm afraid I don't :/
[19:39:35] <ivucica> Ah well :)
[19:39:58] <ivucica> libjingle sounds so perfect each time I want to use it... then I go and take a look at the code :)
[19:40:12] <ivucica> All of a sudden, I start feeling like NOT playing with it :)
[19:41:30] <MattJ> Try getting it to compile on ARM :)
[19:44:08] <ivucica> Um... yep, I wanted to do that too. How did you know? xD
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[19:58:23] <ivucica> Anyways, found something: http://epx.com.br/logbook/archive/2007/01/nat-trespassing-p2p-connections-using.html /cc MattJ
[19:58:41] <ivucica> The document links to this: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/manuals/3-x/howto_use_stun_bora/ /cc MattJ
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