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[13:33:29] <jackson34419> hi
[13:33:50] <jackson34419> ned litle helt:))
[13:33:56] <jackson34419> help
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[16:04:20] <rchatters> Hello, who is here?
[16:05:01] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> not sure
[16:05:46] <rchatters> Well, you are here, for one. :)
[16:06:40] <rchatters> How did you get here?
[16:07:06] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> hm.. i'm lost perhaps :D
[16:07:31] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> they kidnaping me
[16:07:53] <rchatters> That is unfortunate. I got here from http://xmpp.org/participate/discuss-xmpp/
[16:08:31] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> cool, what are that list
[16:09:24] <rchatters> It is "Jabber support chatroom" on the XMPP.org website.
[16:10:06] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> looks old
[16:10:19] <rchatters> It is new to me.
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[16:11:11] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> the themes is new :)
[16:12:04] <rchatters> I am trying to learn how to use this XMPP client.
[16:12:18] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> i found new room from that list
[16:12:47] <rchatters> It's not clear how to determine which lists are active.
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[16:13:58] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> what client you are using right now? i'm also new perhaps we can share our knowledge
[16:14:18] <rchatters> Pidgin.
[16:14:32] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> on linux box?
[16:14:40] <rchatters> Windows XP
[16:15:10] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> i don't use pidgin
[16:15:43] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> i prefer web-based xmpp client which i can use it everywhere i want
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[16:16:17] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> pandion or swift is also nice
[16:16:29] <rchatters> So you can get to it on any computer as long as you know the URL.
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[16:16:53] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> exactly
[16:17:31] <rchatters> I am evaluating ideas for use by our technical writting group to help us communicate.
[16:17:39] <rchatters> @writing
[16:17:54] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> hm.. like a blog you mean?
[16:18:15] <rchatters> Well, we use e-mail now.
[16:18:31] <rchatters> Even though we are in the same office.
[16:19:37] <rchatters> E-mail has the advantage of being persistent so I can go back as see what I need to do.
[16:19:45] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> yea, some office communicate each other by an email or LAN chat
[16:20:25] <rchatters> We also use SVN for configuration management so I'd like integration with that.
[16:20:39] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> SVN+email ?
[16:20:50] <rchatters> SVN = Subversion
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[16:21:10] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> i know svn
[16:21:11] <rchatters> SVN and email are not integrated. It's all manual.
[16:21:33] <rchatters> We use TortoiseSVN as GUI.
[16:21:43] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> what kind of integration you have on your mind?
[16:22:06] <rchatters> Notification of commits, log comments, etc.
[16:22:49] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> i thought TortoiseSVN already have that built in
[16:23:56] <rchatters> Not that I know of. I want notification when somebody else commits. There are some hooks for e-mail I believe.
[16:24:38] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> why you don't use github
[16:25:08] <rchatters> Look that up now.
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[16:26:13] <rchatters> GitHub appears to be software development specific. We are not software developers.
[16:28:14] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> i think what are you looking for is to config your svnserver to do notification when someone else make commits
[16:28:31] <rchatters> Yes, I think you are right.
[16:28:41] <rchatters> See you later.
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[17:43:31] <Stephan> the ♚: :->
[17:43:47] <the ♚> oh noes
[17:43:49] <the ♚> not you again
[17:43:57] <Stephan> :-D
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[17:44:53] <Stephan> Don.t be angry and left
[17:46:08] <the ♚> thank god I can just ignore you if I want to
[17:46:46] <Stephan> And don.t ingor me O:-)
[17:51:11] <Stephan> jameschurchman
[17:51:35] <Stephan> Any one know him?
[17:52:06] <Kev> Stephan: This is a Jabber / jabber.org helproom. Are you here to give or request appropriate help?
[17:52:37] <Stephan> It.s kind of help
[17:53:15] <Stephan> Any way athiests . . By
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[17:57:57] <Bloody Rose> hey. anyone know what client stpeter uses?
[17:58:12] <Bloody Rose> I know he's had Psi for some time
[17:58:16] <Bloody Rose> I'm not sure about now
[17:58:20] <Kev> Swift these days, I think.
[17:58:39] <Kev> Why?
[17:59:27] <Bloody Rose> well, it would make me take a further look at the client if I knew he had that. he should know what to choose. ha
[18:00:00] <Bloody Rose> I'm aware of Swift, of course. it doesnt seem to support multiple accounts so I'm still sticking to Psi
[18:00:25] <Bloody Rose> but you know how it's getting old now
[18:00:39] <Kev> Better than most people, I imagine.
[18:00:53] <Bloody Rose> indeed
[18:01:31] <Kev> Code doesn't rot, though, so as long as it does what you need, there's not a huge need to switch :)
[18:02:06] <Bloody Rose> you must be right, but it's like I'm one of those freaks who need to update everything all the time
[18:02:17] <Bloody Rose> even if it's irrational sometimes
[18:02:35] <Bloody Rose> new features and bug fixes are awesome
[18:02:45] <Kev> Official multi-account support is certainly something I want to see in Swift.
[18:03:12] <Bloody Rose> yeah. it would be good. Swift looks nice but it lacks some things
[18:03:50] <Kev> Of course, its first beta release was about a year ago. Psi's was about a decade ago :)
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[18:04:42] <Kev> These things don't happen overnight, especially on volunteer projects.
[18:04:47] <Bloody Rose> I know. I've been following the swift website for some time and even trying out the betas
[18:06:34] <Bloody Rose> are you using Swift? you made it :P
[18:06:41] <Kev> Of course.
[18:08:20] <Bloody Rose> is Swift the reason there's been no updates for Psi in a while?
[18:08:38] <Bloody Rose> even the nightly builds are really old
[18:08:47] <Kev> No, although they're not unrelated.
[18:09:39] <Kev> All of the Psi devs (apart from one new one) have been inactive for a while now. Rion is still active, I think mblsha did some stuff last year, and apart from that the other devs haven't touched it in over a year.
[18:11:05] <Kev> So no, I don't think two of the six devs leaving has caused this - Swift only has two devs at all and is still active ;)
[18:11:16] <Kev> (Although others have been contributing patches, for which we're grateful)
[18:13:09] <Bloody Rose> the only reason I need to have multiple accounts support now is my gmail account. it's not the best idea to have one more program running
[18:14:23] <Kev> Sure, I can't manage without multi account support.
[18:15:17] <Bloody Rose> didn't you say you were using Swift? what's with the multi accounts?
[18:15:34] <Kev> I've got a hack I use to support it.
[18:15:46] <Kev> It's not suitable for general use, though.
[18:16:36] <Bloody Rose> ah. too bad
[18:18:10] <Bloody Rose> how do I change the language in Swift, by the way?
[18:18:27] <Kev> It should pick it up from the OS.
[18:18:36] <Kev> Which OS are you on?
[18:19:05] <Bloody Rose> it's Windows 7 which was russian but I'm using an official english language pack
[18:19:21] <Kev> So you want to run Swift in a different language from the OS?
[18:19:22] <Bloody Rose> so the program is in russian
[18:19:30] <Bloody Rose> I want it in english, yes
[18:19:54] <Kev> In that case, you want to launch it with LANG=en set as an environment variable - from a command prompt, or launch it with a bat file or whatever.
[18:20:06] <Kev> Or just delete all the translations from Swift :)
[18:20:58] <Bloody Rose> thanks. I'll try these, though you should think of something more user friendly
[18:21:16] <Bloody Rose> because the whole client seems to be for noobs. haha
[18:21:23] <Kev> We thought getting the language right automatically was as nice as it can get :)
[18:21:47] <Kev> But if you're using Windows in English, and Swift's detecting Russian, I guess we'll need to work out why.
[18:21:51] <Bloody Rose> yes. it's a good idea, but there should be an option allowing you to change it later
[18:22:01] <Bloody Rose> or that. indeed
[18:22:26] <Kev> So what exactly is the situation?
[18:22:40] <Kev> A Russian copy of Windows, configured to use English as the language, and Swift is setting itself into Russian?
[18:23:19] <Bloody Rose> yes. the language pack is one of the optional updates from Windows Update
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[18:24:35] <Bloody Rose> I just renamed the russian translation file and it made it english. it's another way of doing what you said, I suppose :)
[18:24:48] <Kev> Right.
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[18:28:37] <Bloody Rose> does Swift also not keep chat history?
[18:28:54] <Kev> Correct, although a GSoC student is working on that at the moment.
[18:28:55] <Bloody Rose> I just ran it and remembered
[18:29:18] <Bloody Rose> good to know there's something going on :)
[18:29:29] <Kev> There's always something going on.
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[19:59:43] <baooolfnks> @}->--
[19:59:48] <baooolfnks> هاي
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