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[06:17:57] <ct-open-cobalt> Sorry to ask no doubt a FAQish question, but can't find the answer on the jabber.org site... I made a conference room (by joining one that didn't exist yet.) In pidgin I got a flag by my name, the others don't have flags. How to I enable them, and what extra privileges do they get? If this is answered at a web page, a URL will be enough of an answer I think. Thanks.
[06:20:56] <HedgeMage> ct-open-cobalt: I don't use Pidgin, so I don't know its symbols, but my guess is that the flag indicates that you are owner/administrator/moderator
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[06:21:19] <ct-open-cobalt> My guess too. Am I able to give others the same privs?
[06:21:48] <HedgeMage> ct-open-cobalt: When last I used Pidgin (some years ago) its jabber features were quite rudimentary. It did not, at that time, support room configuration including things like granting room membership or making people administrators.
[06:22:04] <ct-open-cobalt> OK, thanks for the help!
[06:22:26] <HedgeMage> no problem :)
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[08:10:44] <Tanguy2> Hello.
[08:11:39] <Tanguy2> It looks like Tanguy is a ghost of mine, could someone kick him? And kick me also, so that everything is cleaned up?
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[08:31:03] <krs-one> Help me about getting boys for my conference flirt@conference.talkonaut.com
[08:31:19] <krs-one> Bots
[08:31:37] <krs-one> Not boys bots :-D
[08:32:22] <louiz’> install one on a server
[08:32:33] <krs-one> Flirt@conference.talkonaut.com
[08:32:47] <krs-one> louiz’: :-D
[08:33:11] <louiz’> talkonaut…
[08:33:19] <krs-one> louiz’: installed python :-(
[08:33:28] <louiz’> :(
[08:34:17] <krs-one> louiz’: I can't run bots
[08:35:31] <krs-one> The program looks very difficult it's like creating program into c++
[08:36:50] <louiz’> yes, what did you expect?
[08:37:21] <krs-one> louiz’: nothing
[08:38:07] <louiz’> but, why do you want a bot, already?
[08:38:50] <krs-one> louiz’: I'm fed up of running bots so can u send some bots ?
[08:39:47] <louiz’> but what’s the use?
[08:40:39] <louiz’> what would you do with a bot?
[08:41:40] <krs-one> louiz’: like what everybody does
[08:42:07] <krs-one> louiz’: I would do nothing with it
[08:42:12] <louiz’> ok…
[08:42:32] <louiz’> My bot is just saying some stupid (private) jokes in franch
[08:42:36] <louiz’> french*
[08:42:45] <krs-one> Wow
[08:42:46] <louiz’> I doubt you’d enjoy it on your room
[08:42:59] <krs-one> We speak French 8-D
[08:43:29] <louiz’> :)
[08:44:06] <krs-one> louiz’: thanks
[08:44:27] <krs-one> louiz’: @}->--
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[11:51:25] <seagull@xmppnet.de/home> t1
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[12:08:05] <hesgoodboy> hi
[12:08:30] <hesgoodboy> why don't I never see stpeter here :/
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[12:19:42] <MattJ> hesgoodboy, he may be around in a few hours
[12:21:08] <hesgoodboy> ok, thx for the info
[12:21:27] <hesgoodboy> cuase I have been waiting for about one week one
[12:21:29] <hesgoodboy> now*
[12:21:35] <hesgoodboy> and he is not coming only
[12:21:35] <Kev> Waiting for what?
[12:21:44] <hesgoodboy> waiting for him :D
[12:23:10] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> i'm also waiting..
[12:24:10] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> anyway can ask for help in here?
[12:24:20] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> *can I
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[12:24:36] <Kev> Of course. There's no guarantee anyone can help, but you can always ask.
[12:26:46] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> well i've been setting an xmpp server using Openfire, right now I'm not sure with what i've done, so I ask if someone would like to test whether my setup correct or not
[12:27:50] <Kev> Oh, you can do that yourself.
[12:27:59] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> the biggest challenge for me was setting up the SSL connection with a CA sign certificate
[12:28:06] <Kev> If you can disco jabber.org from it, everything's working.
[12:28:26] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> hm.. disco, what is that mean?
[12:28:34] <Kev> Service Discovery.
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[12:29:13] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> right now i'm connecting to jabber.org using those server, is this mean I'm on right track?
[12:29:28] <Kev> Yes.
[12:30:47] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> glad to hear that, how about the SSL connection? I'm also connecting to jabber.org right now thru an SSL/encrypted connection, is this mean I'm also on the right track?
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[12:33:04] <Kev> Servers aren't generally configured to do trust anchor checking for S2S TLS.
[12:33:12] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> please don't hesitate to make a new account at http://mayplaces.com/registration.html which is totally FREE
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[12:34:28] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> perhaps by trying it with a registered member, you can decide which one is wrong with my configurations
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[12:36:13] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> you will also get an Email account, Blog (if you want), and in future perhaps we will implement a FREE SMS
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[12:37:43] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> right now the SMS feature only for Booking notification, Password reset, and comment notif (soon)
[12:37:56] <Kev> This isn't an advertising room, please stop.
[12:38:36] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> sorry, i do not mean to advertise
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[12:39:11] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> who will read my advertisement on this room?
[12:39:40] <hesgoodboy> nobody
[12:39:48] <hesgoodboy> I think this is not the right room for ads^^
[12:40:13] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> that's right, and i have niche market which is not right for this room
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[12:46:35] <asandiyudo@mayplaces.com> no offense, i just try to explain not to advertise
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[15:38:10] <buchanan6343> Hello
[15:39:06] <buchanan6343> Hello@lurker14865
[15:39:19] <buchanan6343> Hey@alice
[15:39:33] <buchanan6343> Hello@Holger
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[16:17:34] <czhan> Hello!
[16:20:15] <stpeter> hi
[16:20:18] <stpeter> can we help you?
[16:21:40] <czhan> today is open discussion day?
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[16:28:16] <stpeter> what day is it for you?
[16:28:20] <stpeter> still May 18 here
[16:28:23] <stpeter> but perhaps May 19 for you
[16:28:28] <stpeter> and May 19 is open discussion day
[16:29:11] <czhan> stpeter: what is open discussion day?
[16:30:01] <louiz’> http://opendiscussionday.org/ that
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[16:30:37] <czhan> thnx
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[16:32:24] <czhan> Why M$ Windows can't support jingle protocol?
[16:33:00] <stpeter> does http://jitsi.org/ work on Windows?
[16:34:10] <louiz’> yes
[16:34:52] <louiz’> czhan, the issue is mainly with the gstreamer librairy, used in most jabber client for Voice and Audio capacity, as far as I know
[16:35:36] <czhan> ok
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[17:00:34] <j.beatty> fbchat uses xmpp, right?
[17:00:43] <stpeter> sort of :)
[17:00:50] <stpeter> the native website chat doesn't
[17:00:51] <j.beatty> but is it federated?
[17:00:56] <MattJ> It isn't :(
[17:01:00] <stpeter> but they allow you to connect with an XMPP client
[17:01:11] <stpeter> they don't do server-to-server federation yet
[17:01:20] <j.beatty> "yet"?
[17:01:25] <j.beatty> Have they announced plans to ever support it?
[17:01:26] <stpeter> AIM has started to do federation (based on XMPP I think), but only with Google Talk
[17:01:40] <stpeter> no announcements yet from FB
[17:01:44] <stpeter> but perhaps they will in the future
[17:01:55] <stpeter> and no I don't have any inside information :)
[17:02:12] <Kev> I wonder what would happen if jabber.org were to ask AIM to federate with them.
[17:02:17] <stpeter> heh
[17:04:11] <j.beatty> why not just federate with all xmpp?
[17:04:21] <j.beatty> I use a jabber.org address right now, but I might not in the future
[17:04:57] <Kev> j.beatty: that would be ideal. I was wondering if they would grant it to any server other than Google.
[17:04:57] <stpeter> j.beatty: I think it will happen eventually, but progress is slow
[17:05:09] <Kev> If they granted on a case/case basis it would be progress.
[17:05:20] <stpeter> Kev: probably I could push for that
[17:05:41] <MattJ> "Dear AOL, will you please let your email users send mail to matthewwild.co.uk?"
[17:05:54] <Kev> MattJ: Just like that, yes.
[17:06:08] <j.beatty> who owns AOL now?
[17:06:17] <MattJ> Can I make a mod_ask_aol for Prosody? :)
[17:08:23] <stpeter> j.beatty: I've lost track :)
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[17:36:58] <louiz’> I don’t see how a case/case basis federation would be a progress
[17:38:42] <Kev> no federation < some federation < more federation < full federation.
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[17:40:03] <louiz’> ah, yes. A progress towards a full federation. But in your scheme, that’s still bad == bad == bad ≠ good
[17:40:07] <louiz’> but Ok, I see
[17:41:28] <MattJ> I'm not sure that it actually would be progress, but it's speculation :)
[17:42:14] <MattJ> If they selectively federate with Google and jabber.org, they've got most of the users they care about, it'll be harder to push them to federate with smaller services
[17:42:46] <Kev> It's a reasonable argument.
[17:44:15] <louiz’> And what is their reason for a federation only with google? It’s not technicaly easier, is it?
[17:45:54] <MattJ> No, I don't see so
[17:46:38] <evilotto> it's probably easier to convince the business people making the decisions that it's a good idea to only federate with partners.
[17:49:03] <evilotto> the thought of willingly losing a captive audience terrifies them. The idea that you're losing them anyway and loosening your grip might actually keep some of them is very counter-intuitive.
[17:49:16] <evilotto> (talking about business folks in general, not AOL specifically)
[17:50:02] <j.beatty> I don't understand how federation with all xmpp services is so hard
[17:50:11] <j.beatty> same thing with email
[17:50:54] <evilotto> At least they have a contact link on http://www.aim.com/xmpp
[17:51:33] <MattJ> Oh right, so I can make a mod_ask_aol
[17:52:43] <louiz’> great
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[17:58:30] <evilotto> their position is summarized on http://consumerapppartners.aol.com/partners -
[17:58:58] <evilotto> "Vendors of instant messaging solutions for business have found partnership with AOL to be particularly valuable in helping them to market their products."
[17:59:30] <j.beatty> lol
[17:59:33] <MattJ> "While AOL may be best known for its access or dial-up business (America Online), it has an important but lesser known access business generally referred to as the Federation."
[17:59:35] <MattJ> Oh my...
[18:00:24] <evilotto> or in other words, they want to sell access to their users, and open federation gives that access away.
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[18:11:09] <stpeter> yep
[18:12:41] <Z_God> I will ask my contacts about AOL about this
[18:12:51] <Z_God> stpeter: did you still get in touch with them?
[18:13:10] <stpeter> Z_God: I did a long time ago, but I didn't follow up more recently
[18:13:49] <Z_God> ok :)
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[18:14:27] <Z_God> I guess I'll ask them next week when my job is over :)
[18:14:54] <Z_God> in a month I'll have to take down my Jabber server, but still I'm going to ask about federation with them ;)
[18:15:03] <stpeter> heh
[18:15:15] <stpeter> ok, I need to log off for a little while, bbiab
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[18:19:40] <MattJ> Z_God, why taking it down?
[18:20:23] <Z_God> MattJ: I'm going to move off the campus and can't keep the domain (haar.student.utwente.nl)
[18:20:43] <MattJ> Ah
[18:20:49] <Z_God> maybe I'll put it up under another domain some time, but nowadays there are many good Jabber services
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[18:41:35] <j.beatty> anyone else gettting the Welcome message from UNIX time 0?
[18:41:52] <j.beatty> (12/31/1969 06:00:00 PM) The topic is: Welcome to the Jabber help room! | Visit discuss@conference.jabber.org to talk about other topics. This room chats in English.
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[18:51:17] <MattJ> Yes, I've seen that
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[19:11:59] <Mr.freeze> Ok
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[20:23:15] <kevinaparton> Hey all
[20:24:45] <kevinaparton> Any1
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[22:17:09] <Neustradamus> We are May 19th, it is the Open Discussion Day since 2006, more informations on http://opendiscussionday.org/
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[23:38:51] <hayes41134> im new to jabber and i need a server/host to connect
[23:40:31] <louiz’> jabber.org