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[08:18:39] <dwd> Is there any escape-clause in XEP-0016 that prevents you from defining a privacy list which denies you the ability to change the privacy list?
[08:19:06] <dwd> Oh - outgoing iq is always allowed, so I guess you always can.
[08:21:57] <Kev> Well, I'm not convinced by this "You block your own iqs" thing.
[08:23:02] <Kev> If you block iq globally, it's explicitly only blocking other users, which I read as meaning you're not blocking your own bare-JID stanzas.
[08:25:57] <dwd> Where does it say that explicitly?
[08:27:15] <dwd> It talks about blocking all stanzas from and to other entities, for instance, which'd include the server and your own account.
[08:27:19] <dwd> Which in turn is insane.
[08:27:47] <Kev> "As a result of creating and applying the foregoing list, the user will not receive IQ stanzas from any other users."
[08:28:01] <Kev> Example 44. User blocks globally.
[08:28:17] <dwd> Ah. Hmmm. Yes. Not entirely convinced that's normative.
[08:28:49] <dwd> Compared to, for instance, the opening sentence of §2.13 just below.
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[20:38:05] <Zash> Anyone can recomend a Jingle capable Android client? Or just a good XMPP client?
[20:38:30] <MattJ> On Android? No...
[20:38:52] <MattJ> Not yet :)
[20:41:04] <Link Mauve> ssh + poezio is what you search. :D
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[20:42:10] <Zash> It's amazing how good Telepathy on N900 is :)
[20:42:35] <Zash> or, how it appears to be the only good one :)
[20:43:39] <Kev> Zash: I thought Swift on N900 was pretty good :)
[20:46:33] <Zash> Kev: :D
[20:47:12] <Zash> Problem is, only awesome people have N900s :/
[20:47:32] <MattJ> Like you?
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[22:10:19] <l-fy> where is Mr. Cridland when you need him
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[22:22:43] <Tobias> probably aschleep
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