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[02:23:02] <sidneyren> hi, guys.
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[02:36:05] <sidneyren> I wanna to realize a group based on xmpp, which meet the habbit of chinese. could someone give me some suggestion?
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[09:59:44] <jonkri@jabber.org> how hard is it to develop an xmpp server in comparison to develop a library implementing xmpp core? (i have (somewhat) done the latter)
[10:00:25] <jonkri@jabber.org> i'm only interested in supporting the xmpp core features for now (not even im)
[10:00:58] <Kev> It depends on your requirements.
[10:01:08] <Kev> It also begs the question of why you'd want to.
[10:04:08] <petermount> a micro xmpp server where memory/cpu is limited? Or possibly embedding one? I have thought about it myself but not got round to it...
[10:05:25] <jonkri@jabber.org> Kev: there is no server software for my favorite language, haskell
[10:06:10] <Kev> petermount: Well, Swiften has a small fake server ;)
[10:06:16] <jonkri@jabber.org> so i was just thinking it could be fun if it wasn't very hard
[10:06:49] <jonkri@jabber.org> having the xmpp library and all
[10:06:50] <Kev> jonkri@jabber.org: If you don't care about all the normal things that make writing a server hard then it should be possible if you can write a competent library.
[10:07:22] <jonkri@jabber.org> Kev: what "normal things"?
[10:07:33] <Kev> Correctness, robustness, scalability etc.
[10:08:49] <jonkri@jabber.org> aha ok
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[10:26:52] <jonkri@jabber.org> what do you guys think about psyc?
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[10:27:20] <jonkri@jabber.org> i'm reading http://about.psyc.eu/Jabber
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[20:28:14] <waqas> stpeter: While I think the request in "[MUC] Non-occupant Admins and Private Messages" is reasonable, how would private chat work? The MUC would perhaps need to assign an invisible nick to the non-occupant :/
[20:28:41] <stpeter> hmm
[20:28:51] <stpeter> maybe it's better for someone to use a bot for such purposes
[20:29:27] <waqas> There is nick registration, so the admin might have a reserved nick.. thinking required :)
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[20:40:22] <Kev> One could, if inventing new protocol, do an invisible join only for PM.
[20:41:32] <waqas> An invisible join is something I've been wanting to implement for some use cases actually
[20:43:08] <Link Mauve> I’d want to use something like that for my avatar retriever, which is unable to get avatars from MUC users… (http://linkmauve.fr/avatar/)
[20:44:22] <stpeter> hmm
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