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[00:15:30] <sona> مرحبا
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[00:59:39] <sdeepan> hi
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[05:53:26] <harirag10> hi
[05:54:03] <louiz’> i want ur company
[05:54:14] <waqas> louiz’: You do?
[05:54:18] <waqas> Hi harirag10
[05:55:22] <louiz’> No I don't :p
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[05:55:33] <louiz’> be he does.
[05:55:36] <louiz’> but*
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[06:11:28] <harirag10> k
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[07:39:18] <Patman.aaaaa> Hw
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[09:18:37] <RAMANK980> HI
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[11:24:10] <sona> هاي
[11:25:05] <sona> هاي
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[14:44:35] <Lastwebpage> there was somewhere a site about the jabber.org jabber server
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[14:45:05] <Kev> http://jabber.org ?
[14:45:15] <Lastwebpage> :|
[14:45:32] <Lastwebpage> no, something about the jabber server
[14:45:46] <Kev> Do you mean the software, or the service?
[14:45:53] <Kev> That site is about the xmpp:jabber.org service.
[14:46:07] <Lastwebpage> the hardware from the jabber.org jabber server
[14:46:11] <Kev> http://www.isode.com/products/m-link.html - is about the software.
[14:46:14] <Kev> Oh, right.
[14:46:30] <Kev> Uhm, it's an HP server with 16GB RAM and far more power than it needs.
[14:46:50] <Lastwebpage> was ther not a site on www.jabber.org?
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[14:56:16] <Kev> There used to be a page on xmpp.org that listed all the hardware (including the box the XSF donates to jabber.org), but that seems to have been lost.
[14:56:55] <Lastwebpage> ahh okay ;)
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[15:18:54] <arshadwarsi> HAI
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[15:24:37] <arshadwarsi> HWRU
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[15:26:16] <arshadwarsi> Y
[15:26:24] <arshadwarsi> HWRI
[15:26:27] <ramummi> Hi how are you
[15:26:38] <arshadwarsi> FINENDU
[15:27:00] <ramummi> Fine where are you from
[15:27:18] <arshadwarsi> iam from india
[15:27:26] <arshadwarsi> NDU
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[15:28:15] <ramummi> India only in india where
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[15:28:30] <arshadwarsi> AP
[15:28:36] <arshadwarsi> NDU
[15:28:57] <arshadwarsi> ANYBODYWANNACHAT
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[15:29:47] <Kev> This is a help room for Jabber issues, please feel free to hold general chat elsewhere.
[15:30:30] <arshadwarsi> HAI
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[15:31:51] <ramummi> Hi
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[16:18:06] <mawaseem202> hai
[16:18:27] <mawaseem202> :help:
[16:18:57] <naw> mawaseem202: hello
[16:19:26] <mawaseem202> @naw how r u?:-)
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[16:34:29] <quincyadams45475> in BOSH a heartbeat need to be implemented to know that the session is alive
[16:34:40] <quincyadams45475> are there heartbeats in other transports?
[16:35:16] <quincyadams45475> that need to be taken care of in the client code
[16:35:52] <Kev> I think most clients send a single whitespace character from time to time if the stream's idle.
[16:36:17] <quincyadams45475> doesn't TCP handle it for you?
[16:36:45] <quincyadams45475> is there some kind of inactivity check in the server like in BOSH?
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[16:37:31] <Kev> quincyadams45475: TCP streams stay open indefinitely.
[16:38:19] <quincyadams45475> so the server have to check from time to time?
[16:38:49] <quincyadams45475> let's say once per minute no matter what the transport is?
[16:38:54] <louiz’> No
[16:38:57] <Kev> No, that's overkill.
[16:39:02] <Kev> (And quite bad for mobile clients)
[16:39:45] <quincyadams45475> so how do you protect from zombie sessions?
[16:40:04] <quincyadams45475> how do you know if the client disconnected or just idle?
[16:40:46] <Kev> You need to do something, every so often, but not every minute.
[16:41:25] <quincyadams45475> every 5 mintues?
[16:42:56] <Kev> Well, it's a deployment question, really.
[16:43:13] <quincyadams45475> so if a mobile client disconnects unexpectedly, his friends will know it only 5 minutes later?
[16:44:25] <Kev> If the mobile reconnects, then it's ok anyway, but yes - there is going to be a period before the server notices.
[16:45:15] <Kev> Of course, this only applies to idle streams. If you have active streams, you have a much better idea.
[16:46:40] <quincyadams45475> how do you distinguish between active streams and idle streams?
[16:46:48] <quincyadams45475> both can disconnect unexpectedly
[16:47:26] <quincyadams45475> you mean when you are actually trying to send a message to the disconnected client?
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[16:48:16] <Kev> An active stream has traffic, and idle stream doesn't.
[16:48:41] <quincyadams45475> what does the server care?
[16:49:02] <quincyadams45475> you still have the keep-alive window before you notice
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[16:50:53] <Kev> If you're sending stanzas, you will know (from TCP failures) if the stream is cut. On a purely idle stream you will never know.
[16:52:12] <quincyadams45475> can you recommend a timeout for mobile clients?
[16:54:16] <Kev> I'm not a mobile expert, but there is an informational XEP on mobile stuff, I don't remember if it contains a recommendation.
[16:54:56] <quincyadams45475> thanks
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[18:02:06] <tannybabu123> HI
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[18:11:57] <tannybabu123> TALK TO ENGLISH
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[22:01:50] <coolidge9930> hello together I has a problem and hopes it can me thereby help. I have XMPP the whole time on my PC over Pidgin to run. Now I want to use XMPP also on my mobile phone. In addition I use Palringo. The program requires the input of a server during the mechanism however. Sowas does not give it with Pidgin. What do I have to now enter around the pure XMPP to use? I hope it can me there help….
[22:03:23] <naw> in pidgin, in your xmpp account, what is the value of the domain field?
[22:03:29] <naw> that should be the server
[22:03:50] <coolidge9930> nw.am
[22:04:20] <naw> try with that server then
[22:04:49] <coolidge9930> with www and com ?
[22:04:55] <naw> no
[22:05:25] <coolidge9930> thank you
[22:05:26] <naw> don't you remember where you created your account?
[22:06:51] <coolidge9930> my account is from 0x300.com and a friend has sayed me that i must write into domain "nw.am"
[22:07:13] <coolidge9930> that is safer..
[22:07:26] <naw> safer?
[22:08:00] <naw> I haven't heard about those servers before
[22:08:21] <coolidge9930> because of coded write…
[22:09:01] <coolidge9930> that domain is from dortmund
[22:09:08] <coolidge9930> i think
[22:10:19] <coolidge9930> and at 0x300.com you can make your a email adress and that is your xmpp login data too
[22:10:57] <naw> like gmail and gmx, they also provide email
[22:11:54] <coolidge9930> i think xmpp is the same like icq....
[22:12:40] <coolidge9930> but what i see in google is that i can with xmpp chatting in facebook (im from germany.. my english ist bad :D
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[22:14:04] <coolidge9930> im confused...
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[22:14:46] <naw> jabber/xmpp is a protocol
[22:14:58] <naw> a instant messaging system
[22:15:21] <coolidge9930> xmpp functioned in pidgin as icq or msn… I do not understand with the server simply….
[22:15:31] <naw> there are multiple jabber/xmpp servers like there are multiple email servers
[22:16:19] <coolidge9930> i understand
[22:17:35] <coolidge9930> the domain is nw.am or 0x300.com
[22:17:55] <coolidge9930> both functions
[22:18:31] <coolidge9930> but 0x300 functions not into the server field....
[22:19:18] <naw> if in pidgin you have nw.am put nw.am in palringo
[22:19:31] <coolidge9930> i do
[22:19:33] <naw> by the way, you can join this room with pidgin too
[22:19:36] <coolidge9930> but into the domain field
[22:19:52] <naw> the domain is the server
[22:20:17] <coolidge9930> but i have a domain field and a server field in palringo
[22:20:58] <coolidge9930> pidgin have this not...pidgin have lonely a domain field
[22:21:56] <naw> in pidgin it asks for the domain of the server, and palringo for the server (that is, the domain name that identifies the server)
[22:22:40] <coolidge9930> oh thank you
[22:23:08] <coolidge9930> it functions: D
[22:23:15] <naw> in Internet machines are identified by an IP (an address of the type 192.168.123.123) but, as they are difficult to remember, it was created a system called DNS
[22:24:03] <naw> with it a domain name (example.com, easy to remember) can be translated to the IP of the machine
[22:24:33] <coolidge9930> now understand I which you mean: D and it fold
[22:25:30] <coolidge9930> thanks for your assistance and your patience xD I wish you still nen beautiful evening
[22:26:03] <naw> it's night here :p
[22:26:11] <naw> 23:26
[22:26:24] <naw> ( 11:36 PM )
[22:26:44] <coolidge9930> here also well and: D
[22:28:23] <coolidge9930> but i can still 7 grant to sleep thus say I then nevertheless times good night xD
[22:29:22] <naw> :)
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