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[05:29:55] <lastsky> does anybody knows when problems with s2s between googletalk and isode m-link will be solven?
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[07:39:27] <Kev> lastsky: I'm not aware of any problems. What's wrong?
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[13:11:29] <harrison65202> I can't connect to my jabber.org account due to corp firewall settngs
[13:11:47] <harrison65202> is there any way to overcome this?
[13:11:58] <Kev> Ask them to open port 5222 outgoing.
[13:11:59] <harrison65202> e.g. proxy
[13:12:19] <harrison65202> I believe it's closed
[13:12:31] <Kev> Oh, yes, if they run a suitable proxy many clients support proxies.
[13:12:42] <Kev> Psi, Gajim and Pidgin all support a range of proxies
[13:13:29] <harrison65202> I think if there is proxy it's hidden
[13:14:00] <harrison65202> I mean is there any other way to connect?
[13:14:08] <harrison65202> other than 5222
[13:14:14] <Kev> No.
[13:14:38] <harrison65202> but googletalk works perfectly
[13:15:11] <Kev> They offer methods for bypassing corporate firewalls by allowing access over port 80.
[13:15:13] <harrison65202> problem is with jabber.org only
[13:15:28] <Kev> The opposite is true, really.
[13:15:38] <harrison65202> So you don't do this
[13:15:45] <harrison65202> i see
[13:15:48] <harrison65202> thanks
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[15:42:07] <w4win> Hi
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[15:44:29] <w4win> Hi how are you
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[17:57:00] <misha> is there any expiration policy in jabber.org for users?
[17:57:59] <Kev> Not a policy, but inactive users do sometimes get expunged.
[18:00:20] <misha> how often?
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[18:10:23] <haian777\40jabber.org> hiiiiii
[18:10:33] <haian777\40jabber.org> hhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[18:10:46] <haian777\40jabber.org> how r u
[18:10:49] <stpeter> misha: officially we are supposed to do that after 12 months of no logins, but in practice we don't do that
[18:11:04] <stpeter> or at least we're not doing that right now -- we might reinstate the policy at any time :)
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[18:11:34] <stpeter> brb
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[18:14:15] <misha> hm. i would like to know when you start such wiping ;)
[18:15:10] <stpeter> ok :)
[18:15:35] <stpeter> I think we would post a notice on www.jabber.org and also to the jusers@jabber.org list
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[19:05:05] <fillmore46564> Is there a way to run jabber only within my in-home network, or within my corporate network, so there is no off-site traffic?
[19:05:15] <Kev> Sure.
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[19:05:43] <fillmore46564> Does jabber support hands-free network speech?
[19:05:44] <Kev> We usually use Jabber to refer to the XMPP network on the public Internet, but you could run an XMPP server that didn't federate.
[19:06:03] <Kev> I have no idea what hands-free network speech means.
[19:06:17] <fillmore46564> Think voice-chat a-la skype.
[19:06:36] <Kev> You just mean VoIP? Yes, several XMPP clients support VoIP.
[19:08:13] <fillmore46564> Yeah, VoIP is one way to network speech. I'm curious which codecs are supported (mumble doesn't support the few I need). If there's a list I can check whether the hardware we use can select (or be adapted to) supported codecs.
[19:09:28] <MattJ> Codecs in hardware?
[19:10:29] <fillmore46564> Yeah. Some of the terminal devices are small and remote and have a limited selection of codecs. It's a pain, but changing the hardware from the software is dicey;)
[19:11:44] <MattJ> Then is the hardware doing the transport/negotiation protocol too?
[19:11:51] <Link Mauve> You can use any codec with Jingle, the only condition is that the two clients agree with one.
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[19:15:44] <fillmore46564> Peripheral terminal devices will get a network interface board with a network stack. Central components are embedded linux SBC's
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[22:03:07] <Nobu> Hi, is there any way to do authentication in an IRC transport, aside from messaging NickServ?
[22:08:58] <stpeter> not that I know of
[22:09:07] <stpeter> but I might be ignorant in the matter
[22:09:43] <MattJ> Nobu, if the IRC server supports SASL (Freenode does now) then in theory yes, it could be done - perhaps file a request with the Spectrum project if it doesn't support it already :)
[22:11:09] <Nobu> Thanks MattJ, I'll go check it out. In the mean time, I guess I'll need to install another client that supports SASL and simplify my password. ^.^
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[22:24:16] <stpeter> MattJ: how exactly would your XMPP client interact with the gateway to provide SASL credentials to the IRC server? would you simply provide your credentials to the gateway and it would do the usual client proxy guano?
[22:24:43] <stpeter> I ask because some SASL mechanisms are not based on a username and password
[22:25:08] <stpeter> (BTW I hadn't realized that some IRC servers are now using SASL -- that's cool)
[22:25:12] <MattJ> stpeter, yes, I think so
[22:25:40] <MattJ> Not all use username/password - but still XMPP and IRC clients typically assume they do :)
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[22:26:55] <Nobu> Yeah, makes logging in difficult when your password contains lots of non-alpha-numeric characters.
[22:27:01] <Nobu> ;-)
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[22:49:45] <Nobu> Looked like it hadn't be implemented, and I saw no feature request, so I made one; here it is, for anyone interested: http://spectrum.im/issues/192
[22:50:49] <MattJ> Thanks :)
[22:51:25] <Nobu> Couldn't find a similar forum for mod_irc (ejabberd), so I haven't contacted them about it yet.
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