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[04:37:07] <Rion> /me has added support for filetransfer in MUCs to Psi by not yet released version of xep.
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[16:44:11] <Rion> stpeter: Hi. as far as I see, you are the last who worked on xep-0065. are you going to release 1.8rc3? =)
[16:45:24] <stpeter> yeah, good question -- I just finished work on XEP-0047, next I'll probably work on 261, then 65, then 260 -- we have a whole suite of specs related to file transfer
[16:47:23] <stpeter> there is one sticky issue with 65: the algorithm for checking at the proxy
[16:47:39] <stpeter> I think we might want to just define an opaque session ID for that, instead of hashing various inputs
[16:51:31] <stpeter> /me is on hold and is listening to some of the worst hold music ever generated
[16:57:21] <Rion> stpeter: I just implemented this feature with MUCs and dstaddr in Psi and of course I hope now xep will not be changed =) btw, works fine.
[16:57:32] <stpeter> hmm
[16:57:49] <stpeter> how did you work around the fact that in MUC you don't have the full JID?
[16:58:21] <Rion> stpeter: as you described in 1.8rc2
[16:58:41] <Rion> sending dstaddr and use it for back connect
[16:58:49] <stpeter> aha
[16:58:55] <stpeter> if that works OK, then we're fine
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[18:17:44] <Rion> stpeter: btw is jingle ft mature enough to start implementing it?
[18:18:16] <Kev> I'd have thought so.
[18:18:19] <stpeter> there are implementations -- AFAIK both Pidgin and Empathy implement it, and probably Yate client
[18:19:40] <Asterix> Gajim has it in a not-yet-merged-branch too (socks5 only for the moment)
[18:19:43] <Rion> that's great =) I want to play a bit with ice-udp transport for file transfer as well,
[18:20:01] <Kev> That's somewhat less stable :)
[18:20:09] <Asterix> mcabber has it too (IBB only I think)
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[18:31:42] <Rion> Kev: btw, one my friend was dissatisfied the process of compiling of swift because it tries to compile its own version of boost and lua.
[18:32:26] <Kev> Only if you don't have your own (of boost, at least)
[18:33:50] <Kev> The deb packaging uses system boost etc.
[18:34:14] <Rion> I said to him.
[18:34:23] <Kev> Thanks.
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[18:46:58] <wjt> stpeter: sadly we (as in Telepathy-Gabble/Empathy) don't actually implement Jingle FT proper; only Google's thing.
[18:47:22] <stpeter> ah
[18:47:26] <stpeter> rightio
[18:47:44] <stpeter> brb
[18:51:40] <louiz’> What is google's thing?
[18:51:48] <louiz’> The jingle-google thing?
[18:52:49] <wjt> they negotiate a pseudo-TCP connection and then speak HTTP over it, IIRC
[18:53:54] <Kev> If you could negotiate pseudo-TCP, I'd have thought s5b would be the logical thing to use in the scope of XMPP ft.
[18:54:37] <wjt> We don't not implement XEP-0234 for any reason beyond lack of time :)
[18:57:40] <misha> wjt: what client?
[18:58:07] <wjt> telepathy-gabble, as used by Empathy (among others)
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[18:58:09] <Kev> wjt: Are you GSoCing?
[18:58:24] <misha> what a verb :)
[18:58:33] <wjt> Kev: hmm, i don't know
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[18:59:26] <wjt> I think Empathy had a SoC puppet one year via Gnome; I don't think Telepathy itself ever has (as opposed to popping up under other umbrellas, like Pidgin)… I should ask around
[18:59:55] <Kev> As long as it's XMPP stuff, the XSF is a fine umbrella, I'd have thought.
[19:00:42] <wjt> Oh, that'd be nice
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[19:01:03] <Kev> But you'd have to get it in gear and submit ideas :)
[19:01:09] <wjt> of coure
[19:01:19] <wjt> do you know the deadlines offhand?
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[19:01:32] <Kev> Right now Org applications have opened.
[19:01:46] <Kev> Ideally ideas are up at that time :)
[19:02:15] <Kev> Students are already looking at what projects the orgs are planning to offer, even though they're not accepted yet.
[19:02:22] <wjt> heh, okay. let's see what we can come up with … getting on the roster versioning/stream management/make my login faster train could make for a project.
[19:02:38] <Kev> Right.
[19:02:49] <Kev> Although XSF rule is that you're not allowed to make anything better than Swift.
[19:04:01] <Kev> Sad but true.
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[19:06:14] <stpeter> :P
[19:06:23] <stpeter> I need to run an errand, bbiab
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[19:27:38] <wjt> Kev: hah
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