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[01:56:13] <afadingmind> hey there people
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[06:16:08] <Soulmate> Can anyone tell me an active J2J transport. jrudevels not working
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[07:54:09] <clinton37436> my contacts in iChat are all offline but my friends are definiately online and not invisible???
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[09:04:02] <atle> hello
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[09:06:38] <atle> How do you find active group for chat
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[09:08:25] <atle> hello ?
[09:08:32] <atle> 123
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[09:09:07] <atle> hello jonathon
[09:09:22] <jonathon@jabber.org> good evening
[09:09:26] <atle> k?
[09:09:31] <Lastwebpage> there are only a few active chats
[09:09:32] <jonathon@jabber.org> or morning/afternoon wherever you are :-)
[09:09:38] <jonathon@jabber.org> yeah, it seems that way
[09:09:46] <atle> morning her in norway
[09:09:58] <jonathon@jabber.org> ah, late night here in California
[09:10:02] <Lastwebpage> you can try http://search.wensley.org.uk/
[09:10:34] <jonathon@jabber.org> Lastwebpage, that's cool
[09:11:00] <atle> lastweb page ?
[09:11:10] <Lastwebpage> ?
[09:11:26] <atle> that link u send u meen ?
[09:11:38] <Lastwebpage> yes
[09:11:42] <atle> k
[09:14:02] <jonathon@jabber.org> are any of you able to see that my client supports video?
[09:14:18] <atle> how can i do that ?
[09:14:20] <jonathon@jabber.org> I know it does, I just want to know if it's showing up in the room correctly
[09:15:07] <jonathon@jabber.org> atle, your chat client might put a little camera icon next to my name on the list of users in the room
[09:15:26] <atle> cant see any camera on u
[09:15:35] <jonathon@jabber.org> or if you right-click on my name you might see "video call" as an option
[09:15:40] <jonathon@jabber.org> hmm, weird
[09:17:31] <Lastwebpage> jonathon@jabber.org I am sure that 99% or more users use clients without jabber video/audio, for this reason they will have no icon ;)
[09:18:15] <jonathon@jabber.org> ah, okay
[09:18:31] <atle> what ?
[09:18:33] <jonathon@jabber.org> it's just weird because some people in teh room have audio/video support
[09:18:48] <jonathon@jabber.org> but I don't have an icon listed next to my name
[09:19:08] <atle> i have video put one now, can u see it ?
[09:19:13] <jonathon@jabber.org> but maybe it doesn't show it to me since it's my own account
[09:19:43] <jonathon@jabber.org> atle, your client doesn't appear to support audio or video for me
[09:20:04] <atle> maybee because im going tru my own server ?
[09:20:27] <jonathon@jabber.org> hmm, maybe
[09:20:36] <atle> or u have to be friend ?
[09:21:12] <jonathon@jabber.org> darkrain, naw, rls-- what clients are you using?
[09:21:27] <naw> I use Psi
[09:22:32] <jonathon@jabber.org> ah, okay. I'm using empathy and it lists your client as supporting audio
[09:23:01] <Lastwebpage> most users use PSI, pidgin, gjaim or miranda
[09:23:18] <Lastwebpage> ( and talkonaut.... :< )
[09:24:20] <jonathon@jabber.org> I use Linux, but I keep looking for a Windows XMPP client that supports video
[09:24:26] <jonathon@jabber.org> (for friends and family)
[09:24:35] <atle> ichat for mac
[09:24:36] <jonathon@jabber.org> but I've had a hell of a time
[09:24:49] <jonathon@jabber.org> SIP Communicator is super flakey for me
[09:25:15] <jonathon@jabber.org> and other than the gmail web client I don't know of one that works
[09:25:34] <jonathon@jabber.org> atle, ichat does jingle?
[09:25:43] <jonathon@jabber.org> (video, not just audio)
[09:25:50] <atle> what ?
[09:26:27] <Lastwebpage> I don't know if this list is up-to-date http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IM_clients#XMPP_clients
[09:26:29] <jonathon@jabber.org> Atle, you suggested ichat. Do you know if it supports video calls with other XMPP clients?
[09:26:46] <atle> says so
[09:26:49] <jonathon@jabber.org> Lastwebpage: yeah, that's what I keep watching
[09:28:07] <jonathon@jabber.org> such a shame. I have high hopes for XMPP as an open video chat solution but Windows clients are practically non-existant
[09:29:00] <jonathon@jabber.org> at one point I hoped Pidgin would save the day but the devs seem indifferent towards video support on Windows
[09:30:09] <Lastwebpage> video chat and windows=>MS Live Messenger
[09:30:27] <jonathon@jabber.org> I prefer an open protocol
[09:30:49] <Lastwebpage> what *YOU* prefer is not the point ;)
[09:31:00] <jonathon@jabber.org> heh :-)
[09:31:47] <atle> lol
[09:33:05] <jonathon@jabber.org> still, it would be great to tie into the momentum that google has going behind xmpp
[09:33:28] <Lastwebpage> video chat with yourself only is not really useful ;)
[09:33:38] <jonathon@jabber.org> fair enough
[09:33:52] <jonathon@jabber.org> but people can't change if no other options exist ;-)
[09:34:17] <jonathon@jabber.org> like Henry Ford said about the Model T: You can have it in any color as long as that color is black
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[09:36:11] <jonathon@jabber.org> Lastwebpage: do you think more Windows users are using MS Live Messenger than Skype?
[09:37:11] <Lastwebpage> I don't know
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[09:38:29] <jonathon@jabber.org> gotta go. bye all!
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[11:38:33] <Bimsy> hello!!!1
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[17:51:02] <es.sadham> .
[17:51:52] <es.sadham> How are you
[17:52:41] <es.sadham> Hallo
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[23:25:00] <fillmore52021> where can I find info about Cyrus SASL?
[23:26:18] <stpeter> hi fillmore52021
[23:26:23] <stpeter> what do you need to know?
[23:28:40] <fillmore52021> how to implement it
[23:28:43] <fillmore52021> what it does
[23:29:48] <stpeter> ah
[23:30:03] <stpeter> well it's an authentication library that implements RFC 4422
[23:30:23] <stpeter> I know the maintainer, too
[23:30:33] <fillmore52021> this? http://www.cyrusimap.org/docs/cyrus-sasl/
[23:32:07] <stpeter> it seems that http://www.gnu.org/software/gsasl/ is more popular, though
[23:33:18] <fillmore52021> I'm interested in how to allow external authentication
[23:33:23] <fillmore52021> I'll read it. thanks
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