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[07:39:52] <nw> hi
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[09:06:33] <joyrinoy> hiii
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[11:14:27] <Jo> hi
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[17:05:02] <skvidal> hi folks - is there any jabber aliasing services that jabber.org offers?
[17:05:36] <skvidal> for example - could I get a domain setup like domain.org and make it possible to alias users through to their preferred jabber id at another service?
[17:05:42] <skvidal> so my users could be username@domain.org
[17:05:56] <skvidal> but receive IMs at username@gmail.com (for example)
[17:06:02] <skvidal> or username@jabber.org
[17:06:05] <Kev> skvidal: That is not possible.
[17:06:20] <Kev> XMPP doesn't support aliasing in that way.
[17:06:46] <Kev> Some services (Process One have one, Flosoft another) will host your own domain for you, but that is then your account, it's not an alias.
[17:06:58] <skvidal> oh well
[17:07:15] <HedgeMage> There's another way to approach it, though.
[17:07:18] <skvidal> oh?
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[17:07:53] <HedgeMage> Some servers offer an XMPP transport -- basically so you can get messages to one JID handled through another like when you use Yahoo or AIM through Jabber.
[17:08:47] <HedgeMage> You don't do that from your end, though -- the provider they use has to support it.
[17:09:25] <Kev> Right, transports aren't very clean, but that'll indeed work.
[17:09:31] <skvidal> I was hoping for something like our existing email infrastructure
[17:09:42] <skvidal> where we don't host our own mail server - just a forwarding relay for the accounts
[17:09:47] <HedgeMage> Nope, that just doesn't exist in the XMPP spec to my knowledge.
[17:09:50] <Kev> Well, that much you can do.
[17:09:58] <Kev> It's just not a forward, it's proper delegated hosting.
[17:10:08] <skvidal> Kev: explain?
[17:10:10] <HedgeMage> What kev said :)
[17:10:14] <Kev> Both Process-One and Flosoft will host your XMPP domain for you.
[17:10:24] <Kev> And probably other places too.
[17:10:29] <skvidal> right - but that's not what I mean
[17:10:43] <skvidal> I don't want the users to have to have a separate username/password/id
[17:11:00] <skvidal> b/c they don't have one in the current email infrastructure
[17:11:14] <Kev> They must have a username et al. for their email account, no?
[17:11:15] <skvidal> for example my address goes from skvidal@mydomain.org -> skvidal@pobox.com
[17:11:19] <Kev> Or you mean that they use personal accounts?
[17:11:20] <skvidal> not an email account
[17:11:29] <skvidal> they use their own personal accounts
[17:11:36] <skvidal> we just allow them an alias to forward through
[17:11:39] <skvidal> we don't HOST any mail
[17:12:01] <Kev> You're not going to be able to do that with XMPP, by design.
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[17:12:27] <skvidal> that's too bad, then. well. Thank you for your time. I appreciate the promptness of the answer and I appreciate the jabber.org service y'all provide.
[17:12:38] <skvidal> thank you.
[17:12:57] <Kev> You're welcome :)
[17:13:20] <jefferson39322> how i can configure msn accounts to jabber?
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[17:14:32] <jefferson39322> anyone can answer my question?
[17:15:00] <stpeter> jefferson39322: you can
[17:15:10] <jefferson39322> how
[17:15:17] <stpeter> jefferson39322: but I suggest using a multi-protocol client like Adium or Pidgin instead -- it is MUCH easier
[17:15:39] <jefferson39322> im mac user so my wish is getting msn accounts by jabber
[17:15:50] <stpeter> use Adium
[17:15:54] <jefferson39322> mmm i heard about adium
[17:16:03] <stpeter> you'll be much happier than if you try to use iChat and the Jabber "gateways"
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[17:18:47] <kennedy4394> i heard about jabber webmessenger...does it work?
[17:19:55] <kennedy4394> does jabber webmessenger exist?
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[17:21:14] <johnson56176> i got disconnected
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[17:23:21] <roosevelt7376> my next question is...does jabber webmenssenger exit?
[17:23:40] <louiz’> what is it?
[17:24:10] <roosevelt7376> its messenger but works by http
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[17:25:22] <HedgeMage> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jabber+webmessenger
[17:25:43] <adams13745> msn has webmessenger so i thought jabber could have one
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[17:26:31] <HedgeMage> adams13745: See the link I pasted above: there is a specific product named "webmessenger" as well as a number of web-based jabber clients.
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[17:26:51] <cleveland60317> i got it
[17:27:07] <cleveland60317> thanks
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[18:19:07] <samerabas\40jabber.org> hi
[18:19:12] <samerabas\40jabber.org> hhh
[18:19:13] <louiz’> hi
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[20:29:38] <cheney41064> hi
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[20:47:57] <sadesmile> مرحبا
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[20:53:05] <stpeter> lots of RTL messages recently, I've noticed
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[20:57:04] <Lancer.Rmah> Hi
[20:57:09] <louiz’> hi
[20:57:10] <stpeter> hi
[20:57:39] <Lancer.Rmah> Kak Bce
[20:57:47] <louiz’> wat
[20:58:12] <Lancer.Rmah> ك ح
[21:00:09] <Lancer.Rmah> كيف بضيف اسم
[21:00:47] <stpeter> Lancer.Rmah: sorry, I don't understand your language
[21:00:57] <stpeter> Lancer.Rmah: in this room we chat in English
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[21:02:19] <stpeter> maybe we need to set up an Arabic room
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[21:17:34] <Kev> I think we need to clean out the room list first.
[21:18:11] <stpeter> yes
[21:18:18] <stpeter> how shall we do that?
[21:19:29] <naw> does m-link has a list of when did was a room used for the last time?
[21:20:20] <naw> if not, take a look and see which rooms doesn't have history, that may imply that they haven't been used
[21:21:05] <Kev> naw: No, it doesn't, yet.
[21:21:17] <naw> also you can run a cron script every half an hour and log which rooms are empty, and delete all those who have been empty for the last X days
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[22:13:33] <Kh963> Hi all,
[22:14:11] <stpeter> hi
[22:16:04] <Kh963> How are you
[22:16:23] <stpeter> other than having too much to do, I'm fine -- and you? :)
[22:17:05] <Kh963> Fine thanks for quistion
[22:17:22] <stpeter> where do you live?
[22:18:41] <Kh963> I.am from syria<]
[22:18:49] <Kh963> And you؟
[22:18:49] <stpeter> cool
[22:19:00] <stpeter> I live in Denver, Colorado
[22:19:33] <Kh963> Us
[22:19:43] <stpeter> yes
[22:19:56] <stpeter> somewhere in America :)
[22:20:52] <Kh963> :-P
[22:22:44] <Kh963> stpeter:your age؟
[22:22:54] <Kh963> :-)
[22:23:12] <stpeter> I'm old!
[22:24:46] <Kh963> 100000years؟:-|
[22:26:21] <stpeter> :)
[22:26:30] <stpeter> I was born in 1966
[22:27:02] <stpeter> even when I started working on jabber 12 years ago, I was old ;-)
[22:27:31] <Kh963> :-Owaw-
[22:29:01] <Kh963> You are professional
[22:29:09] <Kh963> :-D
[22:33:44] <stpeter> brb
[22:34:40] <Kh963> .
[22:35:01] <louiz’> That’s odd how you do not separate the smileys, the punctuation and the words
[22:36:33] <Kh963> ‏_‏
[22:36:50] <Kh963> Hay،pepole:dntknw:
[22:36:55] <louiz’> :)
[22:37:02] <louiz’> I don’t get it :)
[22:37:46] <Kh963> :-)
[22:39:00] <Kh963> Eror403؟
[22:40:04] <Kh963> Error403؟
[22:40:28] <louiz’> ?*
[22:41:07] <Kh963> Privet please؟
[22:41:25] <Kh963> louiz’::-)
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[22:41:50] <louiz’> I think you cannot do that on this server :p
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[22:42:43] <Kh963> I see that In this room
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[22:43:25] <؟> Hi
[22:43:30] <louiz’> Hi
[22:43:39] <Kh963> Hi
[22:44:20] <Kh963> Ent db w 7mar:-*؟:
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[22:44:57] <؟> Kh963: tl7s anfe :-*
[22:45:25] <Kh963> ؟:ele ‎7ketlak ‎3no hath stpeter:
[22:45:26] <louiz’> seriously, what the fuck?
[22:45:31] <؟> Kefk :nose:
[22:45:40] <Kh963> No
[22:45:42] <؟> :-D 7lo
[22:45:58] <Kh963> ؟:qeep cilant
[22:46:02] <؟> Blshna fkfkh
[22:46:04] <؟> :-D
[22:47:10] <؟> 3-|{
[22:49:10] <Kh963> :lol:
[22:49:54] <؟> :HM: 3m atcilnt
[22:50:02] <؟> Wb3den
[22:50:05] <؟> :dntknw:
[22:51:15] <Kh963> 5lek 5rsan:RTFM:
[22:51:45] <Kh963> louiz’:i need bots؟
[22:51:48] <؟> Wt :-|
[22:52:01] <louiz’> no
[22:52:32] <Kh963> give me Room name for bots
[22:52:43] <؟> :-"
[22:53:00] <Kh963> :nose:-I- need bots
[22:53:17] <؟> Please :YES: ‏ ‏
[22:53:39] <؟> I need to Bots
[22:53:43] <؟> :YES:
[22:54:03] <Kh963> To bots:kicked:
[22:54:18] <؟> :-?
[22:54:57] <؟> Ladies and gentlemen, :STOP: ‏ ‏
[22:55:16] <؟> I want to hear the sound
[22:55:35] <Kh963> :lol:
[22:55:40] <؟> I want bots =:OO ‏ ‏
[22:55:54] <Kh963> 8-|
[22:56:09] <Kh963> :-:lol:D:-P:-)
[22:56:35] <؟> :BOTAN:
[22:56:59] <؟> Hello, man!
[22:57:03] <؟> :-"
[22:57:20] <؟> louiz’: :dntknw:
[22:57:48] <؟> I am talking to you
[22:57:50] <؟> :HM:
[22:58:05] <Kh963> Naemen hl aoubash
[22:58:10] <؟> I want bots
[22:58:13] <Kh963> Me؟
[22:58:21] <؟> No
[22:58:35] <louiz’> wth
[22:58:37] <Kh963> Ma bdo efhm belzoء
[22:58:47] <؟> ‏ ‏Thatlouiz’
[22:58:52] <louiz’> what
[22:59:12] <؟> louiz’: I want bots
[22:59:19] <louiz’> Ok
[22:59:34] <؟> For my room
[22:59:36] <؟> :dntknw:
[22:59:49] <؟> Name of room
[22:59:49] <louiz’> google "neutron jabber bot"
[23:00:00] <؟> feeling
[23:00:22] <؟> :-?
[23:00:42] <؟> I do not know
[23:01:29] <؟> I want to bot Baku
[23:01:30] <Kh963> Contineu
[23:01:42] <؟> And so on
[23:03:19] <؟> Host Room conference.jabber.ru
[23:03:21] <؟> :dntknw:
[23:03:33] <Kh963> باي/bay
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[23:03:49] <؟> بكير
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[23:03:54] <؟> خليك دب
[23:04:05] <Kh963> بدي احكي جماعية
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[23:04:15] <؟> :-?
[23:04:31] <؟> louiz’:
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[23:05:24] <louiz’> No
[23:06:11] <؟> I want to bot
[23:06:26] <؟> Why not
[23:07:12] <؟> Well I want to learn how to send bots
[23:07:39] <؟> Can you tell me how
[23:07:43] <؟> :dntknw:
[23:08:04] <louiz’> no
[23:08:09] <؟> I want a full explanation :STOP:
[23:08:20] <؟> Why no
[23:08:48] <؟> :dntknw:
[23:09:34] <؟> Do you know how to send bots :-|
[23:10:16] <؟> :dntknw: louiz’:
[23:10:32] <؟> I tell you
[23:11:37] <louiz’> could you stop that?
[23:12:17] <؟> :oops:
[23:12:28] <؟> Present
[23:12:40] <؟> So
[23:12:58] <؟> But I want bots :-(
[23:14:05] <؟> 3-|{
[23:14:49] <؟> Bay
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[23:14:53] <؟> @}->--
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[23:16:29] <misha> how do they get in here?
[23:17:09] <misha> i've never seen such visitors in other conferences, neither not on c.j.org no on c.j.ru
[23:17:28] <misha> but here it's rather regular.
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[23:18:04] <louiz’> That’s odd, yes
[23:18:12] <Lastwebpage> Lesson tonight: "How to setup the ignore list in my client?"
[23:25:29] <stpeter> misha: good question :)
[23:26:17] <stpeter> misha: most of them are talkonaut users, it seems (I can see their real JabberIDs)
[23:26:34] <misha> default room somehow, maybe?
[23:26:43] <stpeter> yes
[23:26:54] <stpeter> or configured into the client
[23:27:03] <stpeter> talkonaut is a client for mobile phones
[23:29:04] <misha> yeah, i know, it was popular in russia also, and its user also wasn't adequate also :)
[23:29:12] <stpeter> :)
[23:29:32] <misha> now for mobile phones (andoid) xabber become very popular, although it doesn't support MUC's (yet)
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[23:35:30] <stpeter> yep, that was another talkonaut user
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[23:41:29] <Kev> Perhaps not supporting MUCs is good for some clients :)
[23:41:36] <stpeter> heh
[23:41:37] <stpeter> yeah
[23:41:43] <stpeter> /me reminds Kev to get some sleep
[23:41:48] <Kev> Still working.
[23:41:55] <stpeter> my point exactly
[23:42:14] <Kev> Midnight oil doesn't count for another 18 minutes, anyway.
[23:43:54] <Kev> Just burning the 'late evening' oil at the moment :)
[23:45:14] <stpeter> :P
[23:46:24] <misha> stpeter: are you aware of any on-going effort for XEP'ing OTR?
[23:46:44] <stpeter> misha: I have talked with the OTR developers about RFC'ing it
[23:47:34] <misha> and what do they said?
[23:48:05] <misha> err, at nights my english become complete garbage
[23:48:15] <stpeter> :)
[23:48:16] <stpeter> well
[23:50:07] <stpeter> that project is a bit slow -- not many developers anymore
[23:50:10] <stpeter> but they are interested
[23:50:14] <stpeter> bbiab, I need to cook dinner
[23:52:24] <misha> bon appetit