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[16:26:11] <markus-kohlhase> Hey!
[16:26:35] <louiz’> Hey!
[16:27:06] <markus-kohlhase> does someone know if there is an alternative to the Jabber Object Access Protocol (JOAP) - XEP 0075?
[16:28:23] <markus-kohlhase> and why was it deferred?
[16:43:05] <Tobias> deferred is the natural state if a XEP had experimental status and hasn't been updated for a year
[16:43:28] <Tobias> if one sends an update for the XEP it'll get experimental again
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[17:13:42] <markus-kohlhase> thanks Tobias!
[17:16:39] <markus-kohlhase> so would you recommend to use a deferred XEP or not? XEP 0075 was last updated 2008 and I guess is won't be updated again :-/
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[17:17:44] <markus-kohlhase> And are there any other ways/methods to manipulate entities over xmpp?
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[17:21:08] <Tobias> markus-kohlhase, there's RPC over jabber, or DATA-IO
[17:21:52] <Tobias> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0244.html
[17:23:43] <markus-kohlhase> data-io is also deferred ;-) Thanks anyway!
[17:25:26] <Tobias> yup
[17:25:43] <Tobias> experimental well..is for upcomming new experiments
[17:33:11] <markus-kohlhase> do you know any applications that are not social/buddy oriented and use xmpp as a base-protocol for (distributes) systems?
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[17:54:18] <Tobias> XMPP is used in non-chat/social scenarios. i mostly remember systems at university or research related
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[18:10:12] <markus-kohlhase> that's interesting. do you think that's because of the lack of practical relevance? And because other protocols/mechanisms are more suited for communication between bots/components?
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[18:16:47] <Tobias_> i also stumbled upon this http://cdn.bitbucket.org/pombredanne/kestrel-preredis/downloads/mtags09.pdf
[18:17:03] <Tobias_> and data-io has been used by some biochemical developers together with bioclipse
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[18:35:04] <markus-kohlhase> thanks for the link!
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