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[07:37:32] <guus> Hey Maarten
[07:37:37] <guus> heb je al in je mail gekeken vandaag?
[07:37:45] <guus> we hebben een Pioneer issuetje
[07:44:45] <guus> argh
[07:44:54] <guus> blast those automatic popups :)
[07:44:57] <guus> sorry for this :)
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[15:49:46] <dwd> Anyone remember the speeqe magic to get it to join remote rooms? (Like xsf@muc.xmpp.org in particular)?
[15:56:49] <dwd> Or, possibly more useful, does the gmail talk web thing do MUC?
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[15:58:38] <louiz’> I don’t think so
[15:58:48] <louiz’> but why not jappix? :p
[16:01:31] <dwd> One of our Board folk is trapped behind a rather unpleasant sounding firewall today, which blocks most websites.
[16:02:12] <louiz’> oh :/
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[18:55:14] <psa> hmm, is there a client that enables me to view the certificate? I figured Psi would let me do that, but I don't see a feature for that
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[18:59:12] <Zash> psa: Sadly, missing detail in most clients.
[18:59:17] <deryni> pidgin shows you limited information about the server cert (and dumps it to disk where you can inspect it further).
[18:59:18] <psa> :(
[18:59:28] <psa> deryni: ah, ok
[19:00:39] <psa> of course, the cert I'm worried about is jabber.org, so I can just ssh to the server and inspect it :)
[19:01:33] <Zash> http://q.zash.se/1455ff39.txt
[19:01:39] <Zash> Prosody <3
[19:03:32] <psa> heh
[19:03:54] <psa> that doesn't tell me the expiration date, though -- it's either a few days from now or a year from now, will check
[19:04:47] <psa> /me fires up openssl
[19:05:50] <deryni> Friday.
[19:06:46] <psa> yeah I thought so, which is why I long ago put an item on my calendar for today :)
[19:07:51] <deryni> Oh no, next year. Sorry, misread.
[19:08:07] <Zash> Haha :)
[19:08:10] <Zash> Validity Not Before: Dec 15 22:46:50 2010 GMT Not After : Dec 16 12:30:37 2012 GMT
[19:08:32] <Zash> psa: Snooze for a year then :D
[19:08:40] <psa> /me updates his calendar :)
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[19:34:32] <codora> Zash; good morning :3
[19:34:54] <Zash> yo
[19:35:07] <codora> how are ya?
[19:36:07] <Zash> tired
[19:36:25] <codora> i bet. i am as well, even though i slept in..
[19:36:50] <codora> so zash, guess what? i got a job! i'm soon going to be working as a starbucks barista <3
[19:37:00] <codora> good morning, mattj
[19:37:01] <Zash> I saw. Good for you :)
[19:37:04] <codora> :3
[19:37:06] <codora> thank you!
[19:37:19] <codora> it means i can donate to free software projects
[19:37:46] <codora> though i probably will be saving up my money to visit my boyfriend in ohio...
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[21:50:11] <Tobias> stpeter, that msn stuff is C2S only, right?
[21:51:23] <psa> Tobias: I haven't done research yet, but last month I pinged some of my contacts at MSFT about s2s support but did not receive a reply
[21:51:27] <psa> I'll need to ping them again
[21:52:01] <Tobias> i mean this is a nice start but s2s would be even more awesome
[21:52:21] <psa> sure
[21:52:28] <Tobias> currently the only major network that went from closed to open s2s is gtalk if i count correctly
[21:52:29] <psa> but Google started with just c2s too
[21:52:36] <psa> right
[21:52:45] <psa> so far :)
[21:53:04] <psa> /me has been working on this stuff since 1999, and progress is slow :(
[21:53:27] <Tobias> i wonder what their experience with SPIM is? it feels that's the main reason a lot networks are still closed
[21:53:51] <psa> I am not sure
[21:56:52] <codora> spim :(
[21:58:19] <psa> I have not heard about any spim reports
[21:59:28] <psa> at least no one from MS or Skype or Facebook has ever complained about spim, so I think it's more that they want to have a controlled peering agreement, not open federation
[22:01:44] <Tobias> AIM's already doing it like this, aren't they -) IIRC they have servers listening on xmpp s2s ports
[22:01:47] <Tobias> AIM's already doing it like this, aren't they -) IIRC they have servers listening on xmpp s2s port
[22:02:39] <Link Mauve> Swift supports message correction?
[22:02:52] <Tobias> yeah
[22:02:53] <deryni> There's also the issue of jid presentation to users of the MSN clients. Seeing <id>@messenger.live.com is one thing but seeing <user>@gmail.com (and not having that be a passport address) is another. Since, I believe, that would currently be a legal passport address.
[22:03:07] <Link Mauve> Great. :)
[22:03:27] <Link Mauve> It looks not very good in a non-supporting client.
[22:03:40] <psa> Tobias: that AIM service was experimental and I think they turned it off
[22:03:42] <Tobias> Link Mauve, it should look like a duplicated message
[22:03:54] <Tobias> psa, the c2s part....i'm speaking about s2s
[22:04:19] <Link Mauve> Yeah, normal.
[22:05:07] <psa> Tobias: ah
[22:05:16] <Tobias> deryni, legal passport address?
[22:05:29] <psa> Tobias: for AIM, I think s2s was a contractual thing to interop with Google
[22:05:40] <deryni> s/passport address/Live username/
[22:05:41] <Tobias> psa, that's what i think too
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[22:31:30] <codora> /me yawns
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