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[08:12:46] <garfield3048> >usually just waiting a little time will have the "ghost" disappear
[08:13:20] <garfield3048> nope
[08:14:01] <garfield3048> usually I ask moders to kick 'ghost'
[08:15:01] <aRyo> .
[08:15:02] <garfield3048> because it don't dissapear very long time
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[11:59:38] <asir_al7ob> _هاي_
[12:00:08] <asir_al7ob> <asir_al7ob> هاي
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[12:13:20] <carter60090> is it possible to get the vcard of a user in a muc room?
[12:13:32] <carter60090> I want to show avatars in a muc room
[12:13:57] <carter60090> can I send the avatar with the presence stanza?
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[12:14:36] <Bruno :P> guys, jabber.org supports jingle?
[12:16:03] <Tobias> it's mostly a client feature
[12:16:26] <Bruno :P> i'm using empathy
[12:16:58] <Bruno :P> how can i enable it?
[12:24:07] <Kev> carter60090: It depends on the room.
[12:24:13] <Kev> Some rooms allow it, others not.
[12:24:31] <carter60090> Kev: I control the room.
[12:24:45] <Kev> You can always send the hash in the presence, and then people that have you in their roster can see it regardless of the room allowing it or not.
[12:24:47] <carter60090> Kev: what xep do I need to use for avatars in a muc room?
[12:25:26] <Kev> 153
[12:25:39] <carter60090> Kev: something like this? <presence><x xmlns='vcard-temp:x:update'><photo/></x></presence>
[12:25:59] <carter60090> I thought that 153 is old
[12:26:10] <carter60090> there are several avatar xeps so I'm not sure which one to use
[12:26:27] <Kev> 153 is the only one in widespread use.
[12:26:36] <Kev> It's not the way we'd like it to be done, but it's the way people do it.
[12:26:51] <carter60090> which xep is the way you'd like it to be done?
[12:27:03] <carter60090> I want to follow the best practice
[12:27:11] <Kev> 84 - but that doesn't work in a MUC.
[12:27:20] <Kev> We've still not solved the PEP-in-a-MUC problem.
[12:28:02] <carter60090> because 84 is based on pep?
[12:28:10] <Kev> Yes.
[12:28:18] <carter60090> so I'll use 153 for now
[12:28:24] <Kev> I would.
[12:28:27] <Kev> (I do)
[12:28:32] <carter60090> I don't see a config option in muc to allow avatars/vcards
[12:28:37] <carter60090> is there something like this?
[12:28:51] <Kev> It depends on the MUC service.
[12:29:47] <Kev> M-Link (which runs jabber.org), for example, will allow them if you know the real JID of the user, and has a toggle whether to allow vcards on anonymous members.
[12:29:51] <Kev> s/members/occupants/
[12:32:57] <Bruno :P> the new server jabber.org was launched? too late connection doesn't down
[12:33:28] <Kev> I can't parse that.
[12:34:16] <carter60090> Kev: so the client should request the vcard of each room occupant individually?
[12:34:32] <carter60090> or does the service sends the avatar/vcard with the occupant presence automatically?
[12:34:44] <Kev> carter60090: Only if it doesn't already have the avatar that corresponds with the hash.
[12:34:55] <Kev> No, the client will have to fetch it if it needs it.
[12:35:41] <carter60090> ok. thanks
[12:35:55] <carter60090> for a web chat that's not so good
[12:36:13] <carter60090> for a web client it's better to include the avatar url in the presence stanza
[12:38:36] <Bruno :P> how can i do to use jingle nodes in empathy?
[12:46:16] <Bruno :P> ?
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[16:32:34] <clinton28534> hello, everyone! Im a new user and are having problems loggin in. Care to help?
[16:35:03] <Tobias> login where?
[16:35:08] <Tobias> what error do you see?
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[16:38:49] <clinton28534> lack of knowledge is my error :) but I don't know what domain to use? I've found a jabber server-list but i get "Not Authorized" when I try them?
[16:39:40] <clinton28534> hi tobias, btw! /Robin
[16:40:10] <Tobias> have you registered an account on it?
[16:40:59] <clinton28534> I registered from jabber.org's link on their site?
[16:41:28] <clinton28534> or...was that what you where asking?
[16:44:02] <louiz’> yeah, you need to login using your account created on jabber.org
[16:44:05] <louiz’> with a jabber client
[16:44:14] <louiz’> like pidgin, empathy, gajim, whatever
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[16:44:39] <clinton28534> mkej, yeah, I've got pidgin on my screen now...
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[16:45:28] <louiz’> use it to connect to your account.
[16:46:31] <clinton28534> "resource"-field is where the ..@jabber.org should go,right? but its the "domain" I dont get..
[16:47:12] <clinton28534> there was som facebook-domain when I first opened pidgin but i erased that!?
[16:49:21] <Kev> No, jabber.org is the domain.
[16:49:26] <Kev> Resource you shouldn't worry about.
[16:50:18] <clinton28534> but what is the following "password"-field for then
[16:50:25] <clinton28534> ?
[16:53:11] <clinton28534> aaaah, there you go. It worked perfectly now!
[16:53:49] <clinton28534> Thank you so much for your help! Have a nice day now, bye bye!
[16:54:36] <Kev> Bye.
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[20:38:47] <adekvatsubstitut> Hello again! Need some more halp conserning audio chat
[20:38:47] <adekvatsubstitut> Hello!
[20:40:05] <PaulFertser> adekvatsubstitut: just ask
[20:41:22] <adekvatsubstitut> ehm, sorry, but I just solved itself. apperently you cant chat with audio between linux and windows
[20:42:26] <PaulFertser> adekvatsubstitut: do you mean with Jingle?
[20:43:00] <MattJ> adekvatsubstitut, what client? If it's really the case, it's probably a bug.
[20:45:32] <adekvatsubstitut> my friend is using ubuntu and Im using xp and when she rightclicks me in her buddylist she doesnt get the audiochat option
[20:45:57] <adekvatsubstitut> (sorry, my english spelling is kind out of wack)
[20:46:14] <MattJ> It's ok
[20:46:22] <MattJ> What client software are you using to chat?
[20:47:22] <adekvatsubstitut> pidgin
[20:48:17] <adekvatsubstitut> she read (red?) somewhere on the jabber site that audio chat just works between linux based platforms?
[20:50:00] <PaulFertser> adekvatsubstitut: come on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_(protocol)
[20:59:06] <MattJ> adekvatsubstitut, well yes, for some time Pidgin supported audio/video only on Linux... it may still be the same
[20:59:16] <MattJ> I haven't been following it recently
[20:59:59] <MattJ> adekvatsubstitut, http://jitsi.org/ should work on Windows, and should be able to call Pidgin too
[21:01:20] <PaulFertser> MattJ: hey Matt :) Do i understand you correctly that the way i'm trying to help is inappropriate? ;)
[21:02:50] <MattJ> PaulFertser, no, I don't think so
[21:03:12] <MattJ> http://jitsi.org/ being a good Jingle client doesn't seem to have any bearing on how appropriate your helpfulness is :)
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[21:05:11] <PaulFertser> MattJ: to actually be able to solve a problem the guy should decide first what his problem is. That wikipedia article about Jingle has a list of the clients. Thinking logically, i assumed that the guy needs only one keyword: "Jingle" to understand what he's after.
[21:05:58] <PaulFertser> adekvatsubstitut: are you russian? ;)
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