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[09:04:36] <Asterix> Hi Kev, just a short question, is there a debian package of a swift version that has jingle FT?
[09:07:22] <Kev> Asterix: No, sorry. Compiling *shouldn't* be hard, though, if you want to try that.
[09:07:45] <Asterix> I "just" need to install all qt dev packages :)
[09:07:53] <Kev> Right.
[09:08:09] <Asterix> maybe I have a question for Tobias, as he worked on jingle FT too
[09:08:55] <Asterix> Tobias: when negociating a jingle FT, and receiver proxy is used, who should activate the proxy? Sender or receiver?
[09:09:31] <Asterix> the question could be asked another way: who is the Requester and who is Target (xep-0065 terms) in this case?
[09:09:44] <dwd> Asterix, This in relation to your mailing list post?
[09:09:51] <Asterix> yep exactly
[09:11:01] <dwd> Asterix, I would assume the receiver has to activate the proxy in the first instance, on the basis that it's "their" proxy - but quite honestly this is a guess, it's not really something I've ever got a good handle on.
[09:11:18] <Tobias> Asterix, IIRC we cleard that part up in one of the xeps
[09:11:23] <Asterix> I begin to think I missunderstood XEP, maybe requester is the sender, not the one proposing the proxy ...
[09:11:56] <Tobias> "since the initiator will be the entity that activates the bytestream at the proxy"
[09:12:27] <Asterix> haa, where do you see that?
[09:12:34] <Asterix> I Read 65 and 260
[09:12:35] <Tobias> under 2.2 Exchanging Candidates, point 2
[09:12:37] <Tobias> 260
[09:13:02] <dwd> If it's a particularly interesting case, it might be worth an example in the XEP.
[09:13:59] <Asterix> haaaa
[09:14:09] <Asterix> it's the hash that is badly computed then
[09:14:41] <Asterix> ok, I'll check that, thanks for the lights
[09:15:00] <Tobias> you're welcome
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[10:04:31] <Asterix> yeah, things are progressing, now I can activate the proxy and it worward the file to the receiver! thanks all
[10:28:45] <dwd> Interesting - fiddling with Cacti on my personal server, and I see that when it used to be (roughly) 10% of servers that used TLS, it's now (roughly) 85%. Of course, only a tiny fraction are probably using X.509 auth, but still...
[10:34:28] <petermount> I think some of that can be down to problems installing with tls. I'm now running the current binary for ejabberd & tls doesn't work out of the box. At some point I'll do a build from source to get tls working but for now it's not available
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[11:45:59] <Tobias> dwd, do you have a valid and trusted cert set up for your personal server?
[11:47:04] <dwd> Well, I trust it...
[11:47:21] <dwd> Tobias, But no, it's expired. And it wasn't for dave.cridland.net, but cridland.im anyway.
[11:48:45] <Tobias> okay..so you can be pretty sure that all of them don't do actual X.509 auth or have exceptions set up
[11:51:12] <dwd> Tobias, Not really - I'm authenticating *them*, at least some of the time.
[11:53:02] <Tobias> k...g2g
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