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[13:40:21] <Kev> MUC interpretation question.
[13:40:59] <Kev> As far as I can tell, exactly the same stanzas are used for editing all the affiliation lists, but I'm not finding anywhere that it's clearly saying it is or isn't permissible to mix modifications for multiple lists in the same stanza.
[13:41:22] <Kev> e.g. <iq from='crone1@shakespeare.lit/desktop' id='member4' to='darkcave@chat.shakespeare.lit' type='set'> <query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#admin'> <item affiliation='none' jid='hag66@shakespeare.lit'/> <item affiliation='member' jid='hecate@shakespeare.lit'/> </query> </iq> Is valid for performing two different operations within the members list.
[13:41:36] <Kev> Could I have thrown an <item affiliation='owner' ...> in there as well?
[13:42:21] <aholler> sure
[13:42:24] <Kev> I'd assume so, as it's intuitive and not explicitly disallowed - does anyone know of an implementation that would break with this?
[13:42:39] <Kev> aholler: Do you have anything to support that?
[13:43:11] <aholler> not public
[13:43:36] <aholler> but I don't see any reason why any implemention should not support that
[13:43:47] <Kev> No, neither do I.
[13:43:59] <aholler> as long as the sender is owner
[13:44:06] <Kev> Right.
[13:45:37] <aholler> 5.2.2 has something about that
[13:45:55] <Kev> Does it?
[13:46:26] <Kev> That only gives the effective ACL, AFAICS, nothing about allowing multiple changes in a stanza.
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[13:50:16] <aholler> 9.5 and 10.5 could be described in point
[13:50:42] <aholler> 9.5 has two different affiliations in one request
[13:50:49] <aholler> as example
[13:50:50] <Kev> Yes - that's the stanza I pasted above.
[13:51:05] <Kev> They're explicitly both modifications to the member list, though.
[13:51:08] <Kev> Not different lists.
[13:51:22] <Kev> Anyway, I've just gone with individual modifications for safety, thanks.
[13:52:31] <aholler> the iq doesn't specify the list (only the item specifies the target list), so there is no difference in the requests
[13:52:44] <Kev> Indeed - that's what I said :)
[13:53:22] <aholler> could be a point to simplify the XEP ;)
[14:04:25] <aholler> but combining those points would fit that good in the concept of use cases
[14:05:07] <aholler> though I would sometimes prefer something else
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[15:21:43] <aholler> hmm, s/would fit/would not fit/
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