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[03:23:37] <taft56944> I have a quick question, I am trying to set up jabber on Ubuntu 10.11, and I keep getting a Disconnected-Authentication error. Can anyone help me fix it?
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[14:13:48] <Zeze.love> هاي
[14:14:28] <ThurahT> This room chats in English.
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[17:53:26] <asmar.77> هاي
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[17:56:14] <louiz’> This is an english-speaking room
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[18:34:08] <coward20523> ciao
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[22:49:44] <wcm236> i need some jabber help
[22:50:22] <wcm236> particularly with openfire 3.7.1
[22:51:21] <wcm236> getting 404: Remote Server Not Found in my IM client next to my Jabber buddies who are on google chat
[22:52:00] <wcm236> more details here: http://community.igniterealtime.org/message/217877#217877
[22:55:03] <wcm236> interesting though that i am able to communicate here ...
[22:55:40] <wcm236> at least i think i am able to communicate here :) - anyone there?
[22:55:52] <naw> hi wcm236
[22:56:05] <wcm236> hi naw
[22:56:25] <naw> I guess that for the same domain you should only use the gtalk from google apps or openfire, but not both
[22:56:35] <wcm236> aha
[22:56:44] <wcm236> i think that's right
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[22:57:03] <wcm236> but for some reason (and i could be very wrong) i though it was working before i upgraded
[22:57:35] <wcm236> and we have been at google apps since may
[22:57:41] <wcm236> the upgrade was last night
[22:57:52] <naw> the problem is that gmail users can not locate your openfire server?
[22:58:00] <naw> oh
[22:58:04] <wcm236> interesting ...
[22:58:14] <wcm236> the dns im records point to our jive server
[22:58:21] <wcm236> maybe google doesn't use those?
[22:58:46] <Link Mauve> They do, but only if you aren’t registred in their apps thingy.
[22:59:12] <wcm236> so if you are in their thingy - it thinks it already knows?
[22:59:33] <Link Mauve> Quite like when you serve a domain in your server, it won’t look up the DNS for that domain before to connect to the real one.
[22:59:57] <wcm236> do you suspect i am wrong in thinking it ever worked when before the upgrade, and while we have been on google apps?
[23:00:05] <Link Mauve> You only have to say to them that you don’t use their service anymore.
[23:00:22] <Link Mauve> If you never did unsubscribed, then yes.
[23:00:23] <wcm236> unfortunately people want to use it too
[23:01:28] <wcm236> what do you mean by never unsubscribed?
[23:02:00] <naw> wcm236: I think that you should be able to just disable the Talk service without affecting the rest of google apps
[23:02:19] <wcm236> probably right - but people want to use it too :(
[23:02:29] <wcm236> and i cannot make that call ...
[23:03:01] <naw> wcm236: with want to use you mean to use the "gogle talk" app with it's integration with gmail?
[23:03:05] <Link Mauve> If you used that service for your domain, then google won’t do the DNS requests. If you want your new server to be resolved by them, then you have to tell them that you don’t use their service anymore, and that they can remove your domain from their hardcoded DNS list.
[23:03:49] <naw> you also could switch entirelly to Talk, and use your standar jabber clients to log in it
[23:04:16] <wcm236> naw: we really like the openfire groups thing though
[23:04:34] <wcm236> Talk doesn't have them - I don't think
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[23:07:09] <wcm236> thanks a lot naw and Link Mauve for the help
[23:07:40] <wcm236> so this probably has never worked since we have been on google apps with chat?
[23:07:47] <naw> you are welcome
[23:08:15] <wcm236> i don't think i ever saw the 404: Remote Server Not Found next to my google buddies before
[23:08:27] <wcm236> until after the upgrade
[23:09:02] <wcm236> if my google buddies were there before we went to google apps is that why?
[23:09:04] <naw> I think that your openfire only could communicate with standar jabber servers (which looked up the dns info), while your google apps talk service only communicate with google services
[23:10:03] <wcm236> i thought google used xmpp
[23:10:06] <naw> but maybe the openfire server connected to the google server...... but I'm just guessing
[23:10:12] <naw> yes, they do
[23:10:40] <wcm236> so if we weren't on google apps chat
[23:10:41] <naw> I said "standard jabber" just to differenciate
[23:10:57] <wcm236> our jive server should be able to communicate with other google apps domains?
[23:13:37] <naw> yes, at least if you have the talk service disabled for your domain, if not I don know what could happen
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[23:15:47] <naw> well, time to go to bed for me, bye
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