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[03:36:01] <taylor60107> Greetings, I am seeing an expired cert at https://register.jabber.org. Just FYI.
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[04:50:33] <MattJ> taylor60107, thanks... I'll see that gets fixed :)
[04:52:26] <MattJ> Sent an email to the admin team
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[05:55:36] <taylor60107> Right on :) G'Day.
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[16:20:41] <Freeman.man49> مرحبا
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[17:52:10] <clinton8065> Feel free to redirect if I'm barking up the wrong tree, but where can I find the options to manage a MUC?
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[18:07:00] <obama60901> hello
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[18:10:10] <stpeter> darn, I keep missing folks in this room
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[18:28:40] <ford29177> how can I find out if jabber.org supports BOSH? what would the url be?
[18:31:58] <stpeter> hi ford29177
[18:32:02] <stpeter> we don't support BOSH yet
[18:32:10] <stpeter> but we really should
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[22:35:29] <misha> what was the reason for moving from ejabberd to isode?
[22:36:48] <naw> If I remember correctly, jabber.org was chrashing from time to time
[22:37:05] <naw> isode has been more stable
[22:37:34] <naw> also, I think that they were the only ones that anwered to the request for proposals
[22:37:51] <Kev> They weren't.
[22:38:16] <naw> oh, hmmm maybe also tigase?
[22:38:21] <misha> by proposals you mean sponsorship?>
[22:39:00] <Kev> Jabber.org put out a request for proposals for server vendors who wanted to have their software run on jabber.org
[22:39:17] <Kev> Including support, so yes - a sponsorship in effect.
[22:39:34] <naw> http://www.jabber.org/2009/04/server-rfp/
[22:39:42] <misha> I thoght Jabber inc. is owned by cisco, doesn't cisco support jabber.org?
[22:39:54] <naw> http://www.jabber.org/2009/08/xmpp-server-migration/
[22:39:59] <Kev> Jabber Inc. and jabber.org are entirely unrelated.
[22:40:26] <misha> okay
[22:41:31] <misha> so second RFP is expected this year in august?
[22:41:57] <Kev> I don't think that we're expecting another RFP soon. The jabber.org team haven't discussed it, at least.
[22:42:19] <Kev> As soon as one is announced though, it'll be on the jabber.org site.
[22:42:47] <misha> i just found it very strange, jabber.ru and .org was running ejabberd for ages, and .org decides to move from it. thank you for clairfying.
[22:43:03] <misha> .ru still run ejabberd
[22:43:10] <naw> migrations are complex, I guess that the admins will avoid them as much they can
[22:43:42] <misha> so seem the reasons for ejabberd->isode migration was really strong
[22:43:47] <naw> misha: just asking, jabber.ru has pep support?
[22:44:03] <naw> at jabberes.org it causes problems
[22:44:17] <misha> no idea, if be honnest. never used it.
[22:44:58] <misha> does extended statuses use PEP? if yes - then jabber.ru has it.
[22:45:11] <Kev> That depends what you mean by extended status.
[22:45:25] <Kev> PEP can be used for extended status.
[22:45:36] <misha> mood/activity
[22:46:05] <louiz’> then that's PEP, yes
[22:46:16] <Kev> But there was a discussion on the standards list a few months back where ejabberd said they don't implement PEP properly, to save resource usage.
[22:46:27] <Kev> So even if it looks like PEP, it probably isn't.
[22:47:08] <misha> jabber seems very overcomplicated ;\ proably programmers don't want to utilize all the standartized features.
[22:47:10] <Link Mauve> Kev, do you know what parts aren’t PEP?
[22:47:28] <naw> Kev: if we, at jabberes, activate pep, the memory usage will start to clib at the few hors and the server will crash
[22:47:47] <Kev> Link Mauve: It doesn't do the automatic subscription stuff, it just assumes that everyone is interested in everything everyone publishes.
[22:48:00] <Link Mauve> Argh…
[22:48:34] <Link Mauve> One of the most interesting part of PEP, its optionality…
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[22:49:32] <Kev> Yes. I hope it'll get fixed.
[22:49:38] <Kev> In any case, bed calls, gn.
[22:49:52] <misha> be well
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