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[05:59:46] <d=> I think need to add SamePlace and InstantBird jabber clients to common list of jabber clients
[06:01:11] <d=> How many time you have?
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[06:14:15] <d=> hello?
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[07:51:11] <niekie> Hello all :)
[07:51:31] <Kev> Morning.
[07:51:35] <niekie> Hey Kev.
[07:51:58] <niekie> /me is at school.
[07:52:02] <niekie> My project partners are slacking.
[07:52:10] <d=> I suggest to add SamePlace and InstantBird jabber clients to common list of jabber clients
[07:53:17] <niekie> SamePlace is already on http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/clients/ I think.
[07:53:35] <niekie> Never heard about InstantBird.
[07:53:56] <niekie> Hm, looks nifty :)
[07:54:35] <niekie> Not sure who manages that page.
[07:57:54] <marseille> hello, if you are modifiing this page, can u please add Beem as an android client (www.beem-project.com) :)
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[08:39:25] <Lastwebpage> someone knows the RFC about XMPP in general? (login/password)
[08:42:06] <Nÿco> 3920 and 3921?
[08:48:55] <Lastwebpage> :|
[08:49:07] <Lastwebpage> I love this documents :|
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[09:00:36] <mckinley42461> hello friends I need help about jabber
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[10:35:39] <d=> what
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[11:42:37] <Unemployed> hello
[11:46:40] <Mati> hello
[11:48:17] <Holger> hello
[11:50:05] <andreymal> Hello...
[11:50:12] <Unemployed> Where I find room for chat?
[11:50:55] <andreymal> Unemployed, service discovery
[11:51:23] <andreymal> Unemployed, and uninstall qip ;)
[11:52:15] <Unemployed> andreymal: Thanks for help ;-)
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[12:52:11] <Karukulamhakeem> Hi
[12:52:42] <Karukulamhakeem> Hi
[12:53:21] <Karukulamhakeem> Hi
[12:54:43] <Karukulamhakeem> Chat with me
[12:55:18] <Karukulamhakeem> H
[12:57:20] <Mati> Karukulamhakeem, this is not a general chat room, its a jabber help room
[12:57:34] <Mati> Karukulamhakeem, if you have a question about jabber, just ask!
[12:57:54] <Karukulamhakeem> Hai
[12:58:04] <Mati> Karukulamhakeem, but hi, in any case ;-)
[12:58:34] <Karukulamhakeem> Plz chat with me
[12:59:00] <Mati> as I said, this is a room for people who need help with jabber
[12:59:14] <Mati> if you want general chat, you might want to join discuss@conference.jabber.org
[12:59:21] <Lastwebpage> Hi Mati, ASL? :D
[13:00:00] <Mati> Lastwebpage, hehe
[13:01:25] <Lastwebpage> discuss@ ?
[13:01:58] <Mati> Lastwebpage, thats what it says in the topic ;-)
[13:02:33] <Lastwebpage> there are only 3 people in this room
[13:02:42] <Lastwebpage> (This inlcude myself)
[13:03:10] <Mati> perhaps nobody wants to chat about general topics
[13:03:31] <Lastwebpage> and two times the same person
[13:04:04] <Mati> LOL
[13:06:39] <Lastwebpage> :|
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[14:54:15] <Zhenek> Hi! I've a problem. I can't update my vCard. I can't clear avatar and update any fields. How to resolve yhis problem? :(
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[15:16:24] <Zhenek> Hi! I've a problem. I can't update my vCard. I can't clear avatar and update any fields. How to resolve this problem? :(
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[16:51:55] <Achronophilia> halo
[16:52:10] <Achronophilia> greetings from indonesia
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[16:54:04] <Achronophilia> new to jabber
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[16:55:15] <Achronophilia> anyone from indonesia?
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[17:03:17] <neoachronophilia> helllo again
[17:04:05] <neoachronophilia> hello
[17:05:48] <neoachronophilia> ~O)
[17:06:48] <neoachronophilia> helloooooooooo
[17:12:17] <neoachronophilia> hi
[17:14:07] <mpranj> Visit discuss@conference.jabber.org to talk about other topics.
[17:20:01] <neoachronophilia> i
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[17:54:47] <Zhenek> Hi! I've a problem. I can't update my vCard. I can't clear avatar and update any fields. How to resolve this problem? :(
[17:55:48] <evilotto> might be a client problem, you could try asking in the support room for your particular client
[17:58:15] <Kev> No, seems to be a server problem.
[17:59:54] <Zhenek> It's not problem in client. :( I had try to clear my vCard in Psi, QIP Infium and Miranda. The result is the same one. :( How I can to clear my avatar and any fields in my vCard?
[18:00:11] <Kev> Zhenek: I'm investigating.
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[18:01:26] <Kev> It seems that other fields can be cleared ok, but not the avatar.
[18:03:52] <Zhenek> Kev: Thanks! I can't clear avatar and change vCard about 3-4 months. After the server upgrade in April. The earlier this problem was too.
[18:04:41] <Kev> You can change it to another vcard photo if you want, I'll try and work out why you can't clear it completely.
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[18:14:19] <Zhenek> Kev: It's not works. :( I can't still change or clear my avatar. Server not store my avatar. I had try to change it, but old avatar restored by server. My problem have not resolved till now.
[18:14:50] <Kev> Ok, well, that's odd - I've checked and I can change my avatar just fine.
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[18:19:41] <Mati> I have a question about SSL-certificates. Is there any benefit to have components (like icq.jabber.org or so) as a SubjectAltName in the certificiate?
[18:23:43] <Zhenek> Kev: I don't know how else to force the server to save my vCard. (( Server resets all values in vCard as it were not store, when I open vCard again. ((
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[18:25:19] <Kev> Zhenek: Are you trying to change many things at once, or just changing your avatar?
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[18:28:57] <Zhenek> Kev: And only avatar. And only values in vCard. And all at once. After publication vCard on server. It does not store all values. Server resets all values when I open vCard again. ((
[18:29:42] <Kev> I wonder why this is only affecting you.
[18:32:59] <Zhenek> Kev: I don't know unfortunately. Maybe today is not my day. (( But this problem has been since April.
[18:33:27] <Kev> And that is especially strange, because vcards have been working fine for much of that time.
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[18:42:00] <Zhenek> Kev: Can I ask you in private?
[18:42:15] <Kev> PMs are disabled in here.
[18:43:15] <Mati> Does anybody have an answer to my question? ;-)
[18:43:24] <Kev> Mati: What was it?
[18:43:35] <Mati> "I have a question about SSL-certificates. Is there any benefit to have components (like icq.jabber.org or so) as a SubjectAltName in the certificiate?"
[18:43:56] <Zhenek> Kev: ok. zhenek@jabber.org. Can I ask you here via Jabber?
[18:44:30] <Kev> Mati: In theory, yes - because having a valid cert for the transport means you can have secure s2s.
[18:44:38] <Kev> Zhenek: Why do you need it in private?
[18:45:51] <Mati> Kev, you mean, for a xmpp-transport from the xmpp-transport ->other-jabber server?
[18:46:07] <Kev> Mati: I do.
[18:46:30] <Mati> Kev, hmm, ok, then I will add those as subject-alt-names
[18:46:37] <Mati> Kev, thanks!
[18:46:42] <Zhenek> Kev: I'll want to get you my pswd from my Jabber. Maybe you can get to clear my vCard?
[18:47:08] <Kev> I can get your password anyway.
[18:48:01] <Zhenek> Kev: Ou! )) Maybe can you clear my v Card?
[18:48:24] <Kev> I said earlier that I've checked, and clearing photos doesn't work, but you can replace it with another image.
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[18:50:23] <Zhenek> Kev: I understood. But server does not save vCard. ((
[18:50:47] <Kev> Have you got a link to another photo you'd like, and I can see what happens when I try to set it.
[18:53:11] <Zhenek> Kev: ok. )) http://zhenek.getfilterlive.com/avatar.jpg
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[18:55:33] <Kev> Ah.
[18:55:40] <Kev> It was that picture in particular that it didn't like.
[18:55:47] <Kev> It accepted http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/1x1.png fine.
[18:57:01] <naw> avatar images should be squared, maybe your client checks that
[18:57:10] <Kev> naw: It doesn't.
[18:58:34] <Zhenek> Kev: )))) Oh! Thank you! ))) How simple it all was.
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[20:40:58] <jackson48342> Hi! I have a quick question concerning servers?
[20:42:02] <Tobias> asking it might lead you to an answer
[20:42:22] <jackson48342> I was making sure I wasn't going to talk to crickets :)
[20:42:42] <Tobias> crickets don't join this particular room
[20:43:16] <jackson48342> How do I update a jabber certificate on my server?
[20:43:34] <jackson48342> my clients are saying that my cert has expired
[20:43:35] <Tobias> depends on what server software you are using
[20:43:45] <jackson48342> LAMP server, I do belive
[20:44:00] <jackson48342> I'm an intern, so I'm not exactly sure
[20:44:08] <Tobias> there is no XMPP server named "LAMP" ;)
[20:44:25] <jackson48342> okay
[20:44:30] <jackson48342> need my actual server?
[20:44:34] <Tobias> or are browsers complaining when they visit your website?
[20:44:45] <jackson48342> just IM clients
[20:45:13] <Tobias> well...you generally need to get a new cert from a CA and replace the expired one with the new one
[20:45:26] <Tobias> how that works in detail highly depends on the server software you are using
[20:45:33] <jackson48342> okay
[20:45:48] <jackson48342> and what is a CA? Californian Angel? :P
[20:46:01] <Tobias> Certificate Authority
[20:46:06] <jackson48342> okay
[20:46:20] <jackson48342> good deal I'll go look it up on my server
[20:46:25] <Mati> jackson48342, is your server publicly available?
[20:46:26] <jackson48342> thank you!
[20:46:39] <jackson48342> yes - jabber.shodor.org
[20:46:40] <Mati> if yes, we can tell from here what Jabber server you are using
[20:46:46] <Mati> !version jabber.shodor.org
[20:46:52] <Mati> super, Hals not here
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[20:47:36] <jackson48342> ?
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[20:48:38] <Tobias> jabber.shodor.org doesn't seem to be publicly available
[20:48:50] <jackson48342> oh dur
[20:48:55] <jackson48342> my apologizes
[20:48:55] <Mati> yes, I just found that out too :-P
[20:49:09] <Tobias> Mati: gajim crashes in those cases? :P
[20:49:20] <jackson48342> by 'public' you must mean 'no password and no list of specific clients' :P
[20:49:20] <Mati> Tobias, no...
[20:49:24] <jackson48342> -facepalm-
[20:49:26] <Mati> Tobias, accidental click
[20:49:47] <jackson48342> okay, thank you
[20:49:55] <jackson48342> I'll go and figure out the problem
[20:50:01] <Mati> jackson48342, ok
[20:50:08] <Mati> feel free to come back for more questions ;-)
[20:50:22] <jackson48342> reason I asked was I didn't know if jabber was a network-based protocol, or program-based
[20:50:32] <jackson48342> but ty
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[21:17:01] <johnson57604> Hey! I'm jackson48342 returning!
[21:17:06] <johnson57604> I'm using openfire
[21:17:13] <johnson57604> Where do I put the certificates?
[21:19:46] <Tobias> somewhere in the web admin interface
[21:20:16] <johnson57604> not in a folder somewhere?
[21:21:58] <Tobias> last time i used openfire...most stuff could be done via web admin
[21:22:32] <johnson57604> okay
[21:22:52] <johnson57604> and what's the port number for it? I assume you type in your IP into a web browser...
[21:23:17] <Tobias> i don't have a clue? 8000? 8080?
[21:23:29] <johnson57604> okay
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[21:23:40] <johnson57604> how do you get to web admin then?
[21:23:54] <bush25340> hi
[21:24:06] <Tobias> by reading documentation?
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[21:27:23] <Mati> johnson57604, I am sorry, but I don't use openfire. You can either read the documentation or perhaps there is a similar channel dedicated to openfire support
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