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[19:36:38] <withtong2011> hi
[19:37:35] <naw> hello
[19:37:51] <naw> this is the help room of the server, can we help you?
[19:38:41] <withtong2011> just a few people using jabber, why?
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[19:40:02] <naw> I guess that is because other systems have a lot of money to do marketing campaigns
[19:40:17] <naw> and that they existed before Jabber
[19:42:00] <withtong2011> many people using msn, facebook, skype....but not jabber
[19:42:55] <naw> well, facebook has a jabber interface, so you can log in with your jabber client
[19:43:15] <naw> and gmail (google talk) also uses jabber
[19:43:37] <withtong2011> ok
[19:45:25] <naw> anyway, I think that jabber is used mainly inside organizations and bussiness
[19:45:44] <waqas> Lots of people use jabber. It's just not as apparent because jabber is decentralized, and not marketed too much.
[20:00:56] <withtong2011> thanks
[20:05:23] <withtong2011> can i chat with facebook user by using jabber.org id?
[20:05:43] <waqas> No, facebook doesn't do federation yet.
[20:06:36] <withtong2011> ok
[20:11:23] <naw> withtong2011: if you use facebook go to http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php
[20:11:40] <naw> there it explains how to use your jabber/xmpp client
[20:12:19] <withtong2011> naw: thanks!
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[22:02:57] <jackson26377> any body here smart with jabber?
[22:03:20] <jackson26377> anybody??
[22:03:28] <jameschurchman> hmm maybbeee
[22:03:33] <jameschurchman> what do you what to kno
[22:04:21] <naw> jackson26377: tell us your problem
[22:04:25] <jackson26377> do you know how to succesfully transport google chat wih yaooo
[22:05:42] <jameschurchman> prob easiest to get a jabber account on a server that can also talk to "legacy" (eg non xmpp ) services like yahoo (i don't think yahoo uses xmpp?? )
[22:05:59] <jameschurchman> then sign up for a yahoo account and atache it to that xmpp acount
[22:06:11] <jameschurchman> the server i use, anywise seems to do msn for me
[22:06:17] <jameschurchman> (not surea bout yahoo)
[22:06:25] <jackson26377> no i want to be able to chat from gmail.com to yahoo
[22:06:28] <jameschurchman> and obviously gmail is xmpp already
[22:06:32] <jameschurchman> hmm
[22:06:37] <naw> do you have a gmail account?
[22:06:41] <jackson26377> yes
[22:06:42] <naw> *a yahoo account
[22:06:52] <jackson26377> i will be logging from anoter computer....
[22:06:57] <jackson26377> please wait
[22:06:59] <jameschurchman> im not sure its possible -- i think you need a yahoo and a gogole and another xmpp account
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[22:07:05] <naw> you will need a yahoo account
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[22:09:24] <quincyadams43632> hi im back
[22:10:02] <naw> you will need a yahoo account, then you have two options - use a multiprotocol client (like pidgin, adium, miranda) so you will connect to both jabber/xmpp and yahoo - use a transport/gateway that will "import" your yahoo contacts to your jabber account
[22:10:58] <quincyadams43632> i have a yahoo
[22:11:45] <quincyadams43632> i want to do thru transport
[22:12:42] <quincyadams43632> how do i do it?
[22:13:21] <naw> you will need a jabber client that supports service discovery
[22:13:26] <naw> almost all do
[22:13:30] <naw> but ichat doesn't
[22:13:36] <quincyadams43632> psi
[22:13:51] <naw> if you don't know which one to choose, you can pick psi
[22:13:52] <naw> ok
[22:13:56] <quincyadams43632> i have
[22:14:05] <naw> you have your gmail account configured in psi?
[22:14:19] <quincyadams43632> yes
[22:14:22] <naw> by the way, you can join this room using psi
[22:14:25] <naw> ok
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[22:14:48] <naw> in service discovery put the address of a server with a yahoo trasport
[22:14:51] <naw> like jaim.at
[22:15:00] <naw> http://www.jabberes.org/servers/servers_by_gateway_yahoo.html <- there are more servers
[22:15:42] <naw> oh, sorry, I think that jaim doesn't work
[22:16:42] <naw> let's try silper.cz
[22:17:03] <naw> you will see two items with the yahoo logo
[22:17:08] <naw> doubleclick on them
[22:17:20] <naw> then it will ask you your yahoo account data
[22:17:59] <quincyadams43632> they go offline
[22:19:01] <naw> the two?
[22:19:05] <naw> or only one?
[22:19:18] <quincyadams43632> they all
[22:19:31] <naw> the yahoo2.silper.cz seemed to work........
[22:19:44] <naw> hmmmmm ok, let's try with another one
[22:20:08] <naw> some transports are configured to be only usable by people from their servers
[22:21:51] <naw> and yahoo.jabme.de ? although is in german
[22:22:05] <quincyadams43632> ok i go to my yahoo mail and a person is on then i go to gmail and the person is not on
[22:22:16] <quincyadams43632> this happens in most servers
[22:22:54] <quincyadams43632> i am coming from another computer wait....
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[22:24:58] <naw> but can you see yahoo.jabme.de ?
[22:25:30] <naw> and make right click on it and see the register option?
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[22:25:55] <obama16926> hi im back
[22:26:06] <obama16926> do i need a jebber account for this
[22:26:07] <obama16926> ?
[22:26:18] <naw> your gmail account is a jabber account
[22:26:34] <obama16926> oh ok
[22:26:43] <obama16926> and wat server do i use
[22:26:50] <naw> try yahoo.jabme.de
[22:26:56] <obama16926> (im not obama)
[22:27:19] <naw> the web client gives random nicknames
[22:27:31] <naw> in psi, there is an option to join chatrooms
[22:27:44] <obama16926> wait i have to switch computers again
[22:27:45] <obama16926> ssry
[22:27:51] <naw> this one is room jabber server conference.jabber.org
[22:28:01] <obama16926> i dont have psi on this computer
[22:28:06] <obama16926> im canging
[22:28:09] <naw> though gmail accounts sometimes do srange things on this room
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[22:28:14] <naw> oh
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[22:29:33] <reagan21050> hi
[22:29:49] <naw> hello,
[22:30:15] <reagan21050> so which server do i choose
[22:30:55] <reagan21050> because when i go to yahoo a person is on then i go to gmail and the person is offline
[22:31:05] <naw> yahoo.jabme.de
[22:31:23] <naw> can you make right click on it and see the register optio
[22:31:29] <naw> *option?
[22:31:36] <reagan21050> let me try
[22:31:45] <reagan21050> i am using gajim
[22:32:55] <naw> gajim should also work
[22:33:18] <naw> but the interface will be different
[22:33:30] <reagan21050> so it added the contacts
[22:33:38] <reagan21050> now i will check yahoo
[22:34:55] <naw> you see your yahoo contacts on gajim? ok not they should be also visible through the gmail webmail
[22:35:12] <reagan21050> not?
[22:36:18] <naw> *now
[22:36:39] <naw> I wanted to write "now" instead "not"
[22:37:31] <reagan21050> oh
[22:41:41] <reagan21050> ok i see the transport server on the client but i dont see it in gmail
[22:43:12] <reagan21050> so what do i do?
[22:46:52] <reagan21050> ..
[22:48:29] <reagan21050> anyone plz help me
[22:50:00] <reagan21050> can anyone help me
[22:50:01] <reagan21050> ?
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[22:53:58] <hayes50900> hi
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[22:56:20] <naw> opps, I wasn't paying attention
[22:57:07] <naw> well ,in case he comes back, he should see his yahoo conectacts available on gmail
[22:57:17] <hayes50900> let me see
[22:57:18] <naw> *contacts
[22:57:24] <hayes50900> its myself in another account
[22:57:29] <naw> oh, ok
[22:58:19] <naw> do you have yahoo contacts on that yahoo account?
[22:58:55] <hayes50900> yes
[22:59:15] <naw> and do you see them online?
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[23:06:15] <hayes50900> checking
[23:07:13] <hayes50900> its working in the client but not online
[23:07:42] <waqas> Does yahoo even support logging in from two different clients?
[23:08:25] <naw> waqas: I guess that the transport should be in charge of that
[23:08:27] <waqas> I recall behavior of some old msn transports which unregistered you if you logged in with the real msn client at the same time.
[23:08:46] <naw> the transport should see if the jabber user is connected from several instances
[23:09:03] <waqas> naw: But the yahoo servers may not like that
[23:09:19] <waqas> They'll see two connections, one from the yahoo client, and one from the transport.
[23:09:32] <hayes50900> now i dont even see the transport server
[23:09:35] <waqas> That's just a guess.
[23:10:03] <naw> no, I meant that the transport should know what to do if the user is connected from several resources (gajim and the gmail webmail gadget)
[23:10:23] <hayes50900> i am only from gmail now
[23:10:39] <naw> if the user is connecting through jabber and through the yahoo client that could be problematic
[23:10:45] <naw> and no luck?
[23:11:00] <hayes50900> i am connecting throuhg gmail only
[23:11:04] <naw> and what if you disconnect from gmail and connect again?
[23:11:55] <hayes50900> nope
[23:12:22] <hayes50900> it doesnt show up
[23:12:32] <naw> :-/
[23:12:55] <naw> but in your yahoo client there were online contacts, right?
[23:13:09] <hayes50900> yes
[23:13:20] <hayes50900> the jabber server doesnt even show on gmail
[23:14:43] <naw> well, I'm not sure then
[23:14:58] <hayes50900> is there an easier way?
[23:15:12] <naw> I have never used yahoo....... but that should have worked
[23:15:49] <naw> well, if you don't mind to use a program, you can use a multiprotocol client, like pidgim, adium (if you are on mac) or miranda
[23:15:55] <naw> or a web client like meebo
[23:16:08] <hayes50900> so i cant do it from gmail?
[23:16:59] <hayes50900> i use meebo but i want to do it from gmail direxctly
[23:18:46] <naw> well, it should be possible with transports, but if the transport doesn't. work.......
[23:19:00] <naw> maybe you could try another server......
[23:19:17] <hayes50900> i tried 90% of them
[23:19:29] <hayes50900> what about jabber.org's server?
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[23:19:51] <quincyadams63340> hello
[23:20:08] <hayes50900> hi
[23:20:32] <quincyadams63340> i'
[23:20:46] <quincyadams63340> i'm trying to install jabber on phpbb 3, but cant seem to find a list of servers
[23:20:57] <naw> jabber.,org doesn't have transports
[23:21:09] <hayes50900> anyother?
[23:21:18] <naw> quincyadams63340: http://xmpp.org/services/
[23:21:33] <naw> http://www.jabberes.org/servers/
[23:21:46] <naw> there you have a server list
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[23:22:31] <Mati> naw, can't we get a new data-source for the servers on jabberes.org?
[23:22:50] <quincyadams63340> ty
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[23:24:02] <naw> Mati: you mean instead xmpp.org?
[23:24:46] <hayes50900> naw i used these alredy
[23:25:04] <naw> hayes50900: well, then I have run out of ideas
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[23:26:00] <hayes50900> ill try multi protocols instead
[23:26:14] <hayes50900> thankyou so much for your help
[23:26:44] <naw> well, I wasn't able to help you a lop :p
[23:26:47] <naw> *lot
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[23:39:53] <naw> [01:22:31] <Mati> naw, can't we get a new data-source for the servers on jabberes.org? [01:24:02] <naw> Mati: you mean instead xmpp.org?
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[23:41:51] <naw> ping Mati
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[23:50:37] <rafal> hi
[23:50:49] <rafal> from linux CLI, how to send a message to a MUC chatroom?
[23:50:57] <rafal> (Btw the room requires password etc)
[23:52:12] <naw> rafal: hmmmm I think that sendxmpp supported meddages to mucs
[23:52:28] <naw> but I don't know about the passwords
[23:52:50] <naw> do you need a command?
[23:52:57] <naw> there are CLI clients
[23:53:26] <rafal> it will be scripted, so yes a command
[23:53:48] <rafal> or an cli client that for example constantly reads some file/pipe to get commands, like a bot
[23:56:31] <rafal> I wonder about... svn checkout svn://rubyforge.org/var/svn/botabot
[23:56:32] <naw> sendxmpp would do the trick if it were able to handle passwords
[00:00:06] <naw> well, I don't know exactly what you need, but if it doesn't exists you may be able to write it with a python or ruby library
[00:00:29] <naw> it's late for me, I'll go to bed
[00:00:30] <naw> bye
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