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[05:25:07] <Kev> Unless I completely misremember, it says you SHOULD persist the stanza as-is.
[05:27:43] <Kev> waqas / Florob (Yes I know you're not here): "When the user adds items to the roster or modifies existing items, if an error does not occur then the server SHOULD store that data unmodified if at all possible and MUST return the data it has stored when an authorized client requests the roster."
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[09:15:24] <waqas> Kev: Is proxy.eu.jabber.org actually working? I don't think it has worked after the migration.
[09:15:40] <mlundblad_laptop> it does
[09:15:45] <waqas> At least I get no response to disco queries.
[09:15:50] <mlundblad_laptop> though it's highly unstable
[09:16:14] <mlundblad_laptop> it would need to run some other server software, I think
[09:20:49] <petermount> ∑Qqw
[09:21:07] <petermount> sorry :-(
[09:21:08] <Kev> mlundblad_laptop: proxy65, that is?
[09:22:48] <mlundblad_laptop> yeah
[09:23:03] <Kev> We could run Prosody there instead.
[09:23:16] <mlundblad_laptop> yes, that would probably be a good option
[09:23:17] <Kev> We've always runing proxy65, but that's not a reason to continue doing so.
[09:23:46] <mlundblad_laptop> I found it doesn't handle dropped connections well
[09:23:55] <mlundblad_laptop> the s2s connection, that is
[09:44:00] <Kev> Ok, I'm about to break everything http related, I suspect.
[09:44:44] <Tobias> ouch
[09:52:30] <Kev> Will's new-look site is up at http://xmpp.org/. I think he's done a great design job :D
[09:54:10] <petermount> it looks a bit broken to me at the moment
[09:54:32] <Kev> Just a bit.
[09:54:50] <petermount> looks like it's missing css
[09:54:58] <Kev> It's not just that.
[09:55:01] <waqas> It's trying to load resources from stage.xmpp.org
[09:55:04] <Kev> Right.
[09:55:18] <Kev> I did check with Will that we shouldn't change that first, but he wanted to migrate it first.
[09:55:46] <petermount> if stage is up and running then it should still work
[09:56:15] <Kev> It's not.
[09:56:19] <Kev> But I'm about to make it so.
[09:56:26] <petermount> looking at the src every link is to stage, including pages
[09:58:03] <louiz> It's fixed, it seems
[09:58:26] <Kev> Yes, I'm magic.
[09:59:08] <Tobias> waqas: luckily http://xmpp.org/extensions/ still works :D
[09:59:21] <louiz> Why does the main page (xmpp.org/) shows the blog instead of "about" or something like that?
[09:59:51] <petermount> tobias: that was one of the first ones I checked ;-)
[10:02:23] <petermount> one comment: it might be an idea to pretify the ?page_id= url's to make them a bit more search engine friendly
[10:03:18] <Tobias> and have most of the old urls work
[10:03:29] <Kev> Tobias: That didn't work, either, I just fixed it before fixing the homepage.
[10:03:49] <Tobias> fixed what?
[10:03:58] <petermount> tobias: if they were simple, then some apache rewrite rules can do that
[10:04:15] <Tobias> petermount: if it were apache, yes ;)
[10:04:26] <petermount> ah
[10:04:36] <Tobias> but we already have ~50 rewrite rules in lighty i think
[10:05:06] <Kev> Tobias: /extensions/ was the first thing I fixed.
[10:05:09] <louiz> http://xmpp.org/?page_id=28 There's a mistake, it's not xmppy but xmpppy (3 p)
[10:05:14] <Tobias> Kev: ahh..ok :)
[10:09:00] <Hermitifier> In the internet drafts under protocols, why rfc-bis's have versions 3 & 4 ? Just today they pointed at 12 and 13.
[10:10:52] <Guus> is there a _lot_ of spacing between each menu-item in the drop-down menus or is that me?
[10:11:03] <Guus> I like the new look otherwise
[10:11:13] <louiz> Guus, I noticed that too
[10:11:27] <Kev> Let's get the properly broken stuff done first.
[10:11:32] <Kev> Then look at style issues :)
[10:11:54] <Guus> yeah, sure
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[10:13:03] <Tobias> there he is
[10:13:06] <dwd> Guilty Party, Nice nickname, there, Will. :-)
[10:13:07] <Tobias> catch him
[10:13:16] <Guilty Party> ... running....
[10:13:28] <petermount> hehe
[10:14:22] <Guus> typo: "Our current sponsorship period ends soon, when the existing sponsor strucutre will be replaced ..."
[10:14:26] <Guus> 'structure'
[10:14:37] <Guus> on http://xmpp.org/?page_id=297
[10:15:17] <Guilty Party> OK - stop talking :-) ....
[10:15:32] <Guilty Party> I'll be reading the content of the chatroom this afternoon...
[10:15:46] <Guilty Party> plus any emails with comments you'd like to send to will@willsheward.co.uk
[10:15:52] <Guus> o0O(good, I'll go have lunch then)
[10:15:58] <Guilty Party> and spending the afternoon correcting things.
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[10:42:43] <Guus> Did someone mention the issue at the "Future Events" page?
[10:42:57] <Guus> it reads "Your ICS file is unable to update."
[10:43:51] <Guus> I'd love the banner to be clickable (and redirect to browser to the first page)
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[14:47:31] <Zash> The "minutes" link on the History page is 404, and another that I aready forgot
[14:47:38] <Zash> /me runs linkchecker
[14:52:42] <Guilty Party> Thanks Zash, I'll correct
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[14:54:58] <Guilty Party> we seem to be missing an /about/ directory.
[14:55:14] <dwd> Guilty Party, Probably down the back of the sofa.
[14:56:16] <dwd> Are all the people saying the new site looks great all Will's sockpuppet twitter accounts?
[14:56:22] <Guilty Party> kev's found it. It was up a sheep
[14:56:35] <Guilty Party> twitter? whats that?
[14:56:52] <louiz> I don't understand why the main page of xmpp.org/ is the blog, and not a description of what xmpp is (like the about page http://xmpp.org/index.php/about-xmpp/)
[14:57:22] <dwd> louiz, I leave such decisions to an experienced marketing expert.
[14:57:31] <louiz> ok
[14:57:35] <louiz> Also, here: http://xmpp.org/index.php/xmpp-software/libraries/ xmppy→ xmpppy
[14:57:36] <dwd> louiz, Or, failing that...
[15:00:45] <Guilty Party> if we had one, i'm sure he'd comment but... a decision was taken (not sure when, why or by who) that having dynamic content on the front page would be preferable, with quick info on the XSF in the right-hand column. It's pretty easy to swtich it around though if that's the membership wish. you should perhaps start a discussion on the members list to gather wider opinions?
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[16:04:24] <Zash> Gah, linkchecker never ends!
[16:04:27] <Zash> http://q.zash.se/71c0835d.txt
[16:10:53] <Guilty Party> quite a lot of these are links back to the 'old' menu structure from some of the pages we're keeping. These should be sorted when we get the redirects up and running. This is waiting on me finding a way to get rid of the silly 'index.php' reference that lighttpd insists on inserting into wordpress urls.
[16:11:55] <Kev> If all you want is for stuff in /* to be tried from /index.php/*, I suspect this is manageable.
[16:12:08] <Kev> I don't know how to do it, but I suspect we can find out.
[16:13:36] <Kev> Can you give me an example of what you want rewritten?
[16:14:21] <Zash> Guilty Party: It's Lighttpd right? (That's what the HTTP header says)
[16:14:33] <Guilty Party> Zash, yes
[16:14:34] <Kev> Ok, I can do this, I think. Give me a moment.
[16:14:52] <Zash> http://blag.zash.se/2009/08/lighttpd-and-wp-super-cache/ ← :P
[16:16:26] <MattJ> It mentions Lua!
[16:16:39] <Zash> MattJ: :P
[16:17:54] <Zash> MattJ: no, it mentions lua ;)
[16:18:02] <MattJ> Yes :(
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[16:20:09] <dwd> MattJ, "lua" is just "LUA" in lower case.
[16:20:16] <MattJ> !LUA
[16:20:17] <Zash> ~3 lines of config > 10 lines of config + one web server module + 67 lines of Lua
[16:20:20] <MattJ> CONSPIRACY!
[16:20:29] <dwd> MattJ, No, no.
[16:20:35] <dwd> MattJ, It's "Conspiracy".
[16:20:46] <MattJ> HAL/xepbot haven't been able to join rooms on conference.jabber.org since the last upgrade
[16:20:51] <MattJ> Now I see what you're up to!
[16:20:54] <MattJ> !LUA
[16:20:57] <MattJ> :'(
[16:20:59] <dwd> Eh?
[16:21:01] <dwd> Why not?
[16:21:07] <MattJ> I don't know, I haven't had time to debug it
[16:21:18] <dwd> A Riddim instance joins Isode's internal chatrooms just fine.
[16:21:27] <Zash> !ping
[16:21:27] <Kanchil> Zash: pong
[16:21:27] <MattJ> Yes, HAL/xepbot is not yet Riddim, based on gloox
[16:21:35] <dwd> Oh, I see.
[16:21:46] <MattJ> Kanchil is Riddim, but doesn't understand the importance of defending Lua's name
[16:22:05] <dwd> MattJ, That's okay, nor does anyone else.
[16:22:13] <MattJ> :/
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[16:28:22] <Kev> Fixed.
[16:28:46] <MattJ> !LUA
[16:28:48] <MattJ> ...
[16:29:00] <MattJ> I need to add reload support too I guess :)
[16:29:37] <Kev> Not that Kanchil's fixed to know !LUA, that xmpp.org knows about sensible URLs.
[16:29:51] <MattJ> Ah :P
[16:29:59] <MattJ> !slap Kev
[16:29:59] <Kanchil> /me slaps Kev with large trout
[16:30:14] <Kev> If you write the plugin, though, I'll run it :p
[16:30:26] <MattJ> I'll port the sandbox to Riddim when I get a spare moment (and when I've reviewed 3921bis)
[16:30:40] <MattJ> then we can have !ru, and all the other nice things back
[16:32:22] <Zash> MattJ: .. and released prosody 0.8?
[16:32:37] <Zash> ;)
[16:32:37] <MattJ> Zash, that too :/
[16:37:53] <dwd> Oh, surely Riddim is a higher priority than Prosody.
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[16:39:43] <Zash> ... and persistent storage for Riddim!
[16:40:07] <MattJ> *Verse
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