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[07:47:36] <niekie> Hey folks :)
[07:48:37] <niekie> /me is looking into Javascript XMPP libraries.
[07:51:08] <johnny> niekie, well.. depends on what you want them to do
[07:51:26] <johnny> jsjac and strophe are the two most popular open libraries
[07:51:38] <johnny> but strophe feels alot more low level
[07:51:39] <niekie> johnny: hrm. Currently I'm using Strophe. But it seems to suffer quite a few issues :)
[07:51:47] <johnny> niekie, it's quite sad
[07:51:51] <niekie> *nod*
[07:51:55] <johnny> because i think theyare too busy to maintain it properly
[07:52:23] <johnny> i haven't looked at their bug tracker in awhile tho
[07:52:31] <johnny> niekie, what's your goal?
[07:53:07] <niekie> johnny: well, basically a small client on my homepage where visitors can send me messages through.
[07:53:23] <niekie> Shouldn't be too hard.
[07:53:25] <johnny> hmm.. it should do well enough for that :)
[07:53:33] <johnny> i know people are doing more with strophe just fine
[07:53:38] <niekie> Yeah.
[07:53:46] <niekie> Somehow I can't get Strophe to cleanly exit though.
[07:53:56] <johnny> is there a reason to do it client side tho?
[07:53:57] <niekie> E.g. when a user closes the page.
[07:54:08] <johnny> hmm.. i thought there was some window open for that
[07:54:11] <niekie> Yeah, because I'm lazy :)
[07:54:16] <niekie> Haha.
[07:54:17] <johnny> something about sharing connections
[07:54:19] <johnny> or turning it off
[07:54:26] <johnny> if you try back in about 4 hours, you could ask again
[07:55:33] <niekie> Think it's possible to send "User left" when the user closes the webpage, right before exit?
[07:55:51] <niekie> If I try it on Strophe it fails. Not sure if it's possible at all.
[07:56:10] <niekie> Some stuff with onunload or such.
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[07:57:03] <johnny> i think some people were wanting the opposite
[07:57:09] <johnny> the ability to share connections between tabs
[07:57:13] <johnny> so.. not sure what the problem is
[07:57:27] <johnny> i have to get back into that stuff :(
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[08:09:29] <niekie> Hehe.
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[08:20:59] <niekie> Hey Tobias :)
[08:21:09] <Tobias> hi
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[20:09:25] <deryni> Does gmail have message limiting/flooding protection that anyone is aware of?
[20:09:32] <deryni> Inbound that is.
[20:09:55] <Zash> as in gtalk or the actual mail?
[20:12:50] <deryni> As in Google Talk the service, sorry.
[20:18:13] <deryni> I have a user who seems to be being flooded out of a room when he joins it but all he sees is an abrupt end to the incoming history traffic, which combines with gmail's presence pulsing to make him think he's in the room and get flooded out as he joins it every five minutes.
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[21:15:06] <johnny> deryni, and this isnt' the nickname switching issue?
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[21:29:38] <deryni> Correct, not the nickname issue. Though the same periodicity.
[21:37:04] <deryni> He gets some 50-odd messages from the history and then nothing. He can join other rooms fine.
[21:38:18] <deryni> I'm heading home. I'll be back tomorrow. Not that I figure anyone will likely know much.
[21:39:33] <deryni> Hm, actually... It's a c.j.o room, I wonder if the server logs show anything interesting.
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