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[10:32:30] <niekie> LOL?
[10:33:14] <niekie> Doubt he's going to have much luck here :)
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[13:27:01] <mikembna> i created a chat room and now when I try to connect to it, I keep getting a 404. any idea what that is happening?
[13:28:17] <Kev> 404 means that you didn't finish configuring the room.
[13:28:37] <mikembna> is there some way that I can start over or is that name gone for a few days?
[13:30:31] <Kev> If you leave the room with the client that half-created it, it should be destroyed and you can retry.
[13:32:01] <niekie> Hm. For people in my buddy list who have Pidgin I see idle times in the roster. Is this a feature of Pidgin only? How does it announce it? (it does not seem to be part of the presence message, since it's localized for me)
[13:32:21] <mikembna> I never really got into the room -- and I logged out and logged back in, but I keep getting 404 (I'm using pidgin)
[13:32:27] <niekie> I've not seen it on any people who don't use Pidgin.
[13:33:39] <Tanguy> There may be a query for last activity time.
[13:33:58] <Tanguy> Such a query exists for IRC, so it may have been integrated to Jabber.
[13:34:31] <Kev> iq:last, I expect.
[13:34:40] <Kev> But it certainly shouldn't be sending it for everyone in the roster.
[13:34:46] <Tanguy> Yes, that is it, as it is /request last on mcabber.
[13:40:14] <niekie> Kev: it seems to only show it for Pidgin users.
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[13:40:48] <MattJ> niekie, Gajim supports it
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[13:43:31] <niekie> Odd.
[13:43:46] <niekie> When I came offline and then online the idle time for my dad went to 5 minutes.
[13:43:51] <niekie> It was hours a moment ago.
[13:44:11] <niekie> I think it might be doing something internally, without querying.
[13:44:37] <Kev> For auto-away stuff, I do intend writing a very short XEP soon about a sensible way to do that.
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[14:00:45] <niekie> Kev: that sounds nice :)
[14:01:22] <Kev> It's only going to be <idle since="timestamp"/> in a presence.
[14:01:37] <Kev> But I think that's going to be much better than clients overloading the status to say "Auto-away" and the like.
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[14:02:29] <Tobias> Kev: using PEP?
[14:02:37] <Kev> Tobias: Nope.
[14:02:53] <Tobias> so you broadcast information to people who might not be able to interpret it?
[14:03:08] <Kev> This seems like an appropriate thing to include in a presence packet.
[14:03:44] <Tobias> yup
[14:03:48] <Kev> Since there's going to be a presence packet sent anyway.
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[18:15:52] <reagan41771> how can i add additional emoticons for all users of a single machine?
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[18:42:31] <MattJ> reagan41771, that's a client-specific question... find the appropriate support channel for the client you're using
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[02:40:15] <Milan> Hi all
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[02:54:04] <Milan> "MattJ has left" - :ermm:
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[02:59:33] <willvarfar> howdy all, I'm interested what kind of scaling numbers come out of the normal jabber servers
[03:00:10] <willvarfar> I'm looking for a pesistant message queue for a large number of computers, and considering jabber
[03:14:37] <HedgeMage> hi, willvarfar
[03:14:55] <willvarfar> hi HedgeMage
[03:15:00] <HedgeMage> I'm afraid that's not my area of expertise -- you'd probably have better luck asking earlier in the day
[03:15:10] <HedgeMage> I only have experience with smallish servers
[03:15:25] <willvarfar> what's small, what's large, what's unheard of?
[03:15:43] <HedgeMage> Small is about 30 users (what I have)
[03:16:56] <willvarfar> and 1 million?
[03:16:59] <willvarfar> unheard of?
[03:17:12] <HedgeMage> Gtalk probably has at least that many.
[03:17:29] <willvarfar> is it known what server they have, and how it scales?
[03:18:30] <willvarfar> oh well, my next question
[03:19:06] <willvarfar> does jabber have a concept of mailing lists? Can you send a message to some name, and the server multicasts that to a large number of recipients?
[03:22:25] <willvarfar> searching for 'mailing lists' and jabber only seems to find me email mailing lists about jabber
[03:23:53] <HedgeMage> There's pubsub
[03:24:17] <HedgeMage> basically, as a user you subscribe to a pubsub thing, and then you get all messages published to it
[03:24:28] <HedgeMage> Most clients can also message to a group of contacts if desired
[03:32:36] <HedgeMage> MattJ or stpeter would probably have better answers to all of this than I do...I just run a little hobby server :)
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[03:37:25] <willvarfar> pubsub, thx
[03:38:22] <HedgeMage> np
[03:38:51] <HedgeMage> xmpp.org has lots of info on the protocol if that helps -- jabber.org is more general
[03:40:35] <HedgeMage> I have seen jabberd2 handle a lot of users -- but it lacks a lot of common features and I'm not happy with its stability. I currently use Openfire, which is easy to run but probably wouldn't scale well. Gtalk has its own server software (not available to the public), LJtalk has their own (open source) server software. A couple of the guys here have me almost convinced to migrate my server to Prosody. We'll see if anything comes of it :)
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