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[10:26:04] <Zash> So, AbiWord uses Loudmouth.
[10:28:49] <Zash> "Starting with Loudmouth 1.4.0 TLS and SASL are both supported"
[10:31:28] <MattJ> Meaning it tries to use DIGEST-MD5 even if that isn't advertised by the server? :)
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[10:38:46] <Zash> MattJ: Prosody advertises only SCRAM-SHA-1, then AbiWord does nothing.
[10:40:16] <Tobias> after TLS it should also advertise PLAIN
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[10:40:27] <Zash> My test-server has TLS disabled :D
[10:45:06] <Zash> Not that it helped to enable it :(
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[10:49:40] <Zash> just sits there, probably waiting for DIGEST-MD5
[10:51:04] <MattJ> It uses TLS?
[10:54:04] <Zash> Nope
[10:54:23] <Zash> It just sends a <stream:stream>
[10:54:35] <Zash> prosody replies with stream + features
[10:54:41] <Zash> then nothing
[10:55:01] <MattJ> ...
[10:55:15] <MattJ> mcabber uses Loudmouth, and manages
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[10:57:11] <Alex> thats strange, can you post the debug xml?
[10:57:53] <Alex> I added scram last week to my libraries and tested a lot with prosody, I got many SASL mechanisms advertised
[10:58:19] <MattJ> Zash is using the hashed password storage
[10:58:27] <MattJ> which only works with PLAIN and SCRAM
[10:58:45] <MattJ> plus PLAIN is disabled without TLS by default
[10:59:00] <MattJ> and AbiWord isn't negotiating TLS, so only sees SCRAM, which it doesn't support
[10:59:01] <Zash> http://pastebin.com/yhjZxb8x
[10:59:28] <Alex> ok, that explains the problem. I run the default installation
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[14:38:08] <Zash> Is [microblogging] implemented somewhere?
[14:38:14] <Zash> meh
[14:38:16] <Zash> !xep microblog
[14:38:17] <Kanchil> Zash: Sorry, I couldn't find a match
[14:38:19] <Zash> meh
[14:38:45] <MattJ> !xep 277
[14:38:45] <Kanchil> MattJ: Sorry, I don't think there is a XEP-0277
[14:38:51] <MattJ> Ah yes
[14:39:12] <Kev> I should merge xep into the cite plugin.
[14:39:26] <MattJ> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xeps.xml
[14:39:28] <MattJ> Stops at 274
[14:39:36] <Kev> Oh.
[14:39:41] <Kev> So that's not being updated, then.
[14:39:49] <Zash> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0277.html
[14:39:50] <Tobias> yeah..it's on my todo
[14:39:56] <petermount> didn't microblogging go in a while back?
[14:40:10] <petermount> ah zash beat me to it ;-)
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[15:10:09] <MattJ> I can feel Dave exploding every time I post to a list with badly-wrapped emails :)
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[15:20:42] <Neustradamus> Tobias: ;)
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[15:52:36] <deryni> Kev: The Swift uninstaller on Windows fails to remove the Add/Remove Programs entry.
[15:52:52] <Kev> deryni: beta5?
[15:52:56] <deryni> Yeah.
[15:53:00] <Kev> Thanks, will file.
[15:54:34] <Kev> Goodness knows why that happens, though - nsis handles putting the add/remove item in place, and also manages the uninstallation, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect it to remove its own entry.
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[15:57:50] <Zash> Kev: Windows .. unreasonable :|
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[16:07:53] <johnny> Zash, but nsis is an old app :) they should have figured out how to properly clean up after the fact
[16:08:10] <johnny> nsis is over 10 years old now :(
[16:08:15] <johnny> that's messed up :(
[16:08:20] <johnny> /me cries
[16:08:31] <johnny> i remember when it first came out :(
[16:09:00] <Zash> Nullsoft!
[16:09:02] <Zash> AMAGAD
[16:12:55] <johnny> llamas!
[16:14:32] <Neustradamus> deryni: and there is a problem with shortcuts in start menu ?
[16:16:03] <deryni> The start menu group appears to be removed correctly.
[16:16:30] <Neustradamus> ok I will try...
[16:17:29] <Neustradamus> I have a problem...
[16:17:45] <Neustradamus> the group is really bad...
[16:18:30] <Neustradamus> C:\Documents and Settings\User\Menu Démarrer\Programmes\C\Documents and Settings\User\Menu Démarrer\Programmes
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[16:19:22] <Kev> Neustradamus: Lucky that you saw "The Windows installer doesn't detect running Swifts, and sometimes suggests the wrong Start menu group." in the known issues for the older betas, then :)
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[16:20:04] <Neustradamus> Kev: yes yes
[16:30:33] <Kev> Neustradamus: You can safely delete that group, and any other groups like it.
[16:30:56] <Kev> If you do an install with a recent Swift, and make sure you use the right group, it won't go wrong again.
[16:31:04] <Neustradamus> yes but when I install a new version, I have always the problem...
[16:31:26] <Kev> That'll only happen if you don't correct the group it wants to use.
[16:32:08] <Kev> It remembers where you last put the group, so as long as you put it in the right place last time, it'll keep going in the right place - and if you do a first-time install with a new installer, it'll get it right too.
[16:32:54] <Neustradamus> yes I see
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[00:50:03] <Aidan> Can some help me with an XMPP XML question?
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[00:50:41] <Aidan> Does the closing bracket of the 'stream:stream' stanza have to be open ended (>)? Or can it end with '/>'?
[00:52:02] <Zash> Aidan: The entire stream should be in the <stream:stream> element
[00:52:05] <Zash> so, ">"
[00:52:26] <Aidan> Okay. Thanks.
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