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[08:09:30] <soo> hi to all of u
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[10:01:17] <Asterix> just so the community knows:
My server is under attack : a bot uses many jids on many servers to create thousands of rooms on my muc component. Is there
a solution against that except from preventing anyone creating rooms?
[10:01:42] <Kev> Prevent non-local users creating rooms?
[10:01:47] <Kev> Use a captcha?
[10:02:13] <Asterix> is there a XEP to use captcha on room creation?
[10:02:24] <Kev> !xep captcha
[10:02:31] <Asterix> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0158.html
[10:02:46] <Asterix> it's on muc joining
[10:02:58] <Kev> Which is the same action as room creation.
[10:03:11] <Asterix> so the muc has to be created and configured to be captcha protected, so it's useless for muc creation
[10:04:08] <MattJ> Asterix, you can restrict room creation to admins
[10:04:42] <Asterix> sure, so nobody can create a room ...
[10:05:29] <Kev> Asterix: is this gajim.org, or another server?
[10:05:42] <Asterix> yes it's gajim.org
[10:06:00] <Kev> You had attacks of some sort or other recently didn't you?
[10:06:10] <Kev> +other
[10:06:12] <Asterix> for the moment I disabled the ability to create persistant rooms, so created rooms are quickly destroyed ... but that doesn't
prevent them to create rooms
[10:06:40] <Asterix> yes, in fact some guys were banned fom jabber.ru, so they came on my server, I banned them, and now they hate me ...
[10:07:11] <MattJ> I know how that feels :)
[10:07:22] <Kev> It's a shame you can't blacklist room creation from servers that have open IBR.
[10:07:34] <Asterix> they did a bot that made many users to come in room and then change their nick with very long nicks. so now I have captcha
to join the room ...
[10:08:29] <Asterix> the pb is that if you disable IBR, users cannot guess how to register an account be cause they have no error message saying
"go to this URL to create an account"
[10:08:46] <Kev> The XEP does allow that.
[10:08:53] <MattJ> The server can send that URL
[10:08:53] <MattJ> Prosody has a plugin to do it
[10:08:55] <Asterix> https://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB-1263
[10:11:09] <Asterix> but captcha for room creation would be nice ... But no XEP mention that AFAIK
[10:11:48] <MattJ> Does it need to? Is creation even that different from joining?
[10:12:15] <Kev> Creation is the same action as joining, so supporting it on join should be the same as supporting it oncreat.
[10:12:18] <Kev> *on create.
[10:13:09] <Asterix> so you think that is option "captcha protected" was on by default for rooms, that would ask captcha before you can create
the room?
[10:13:26] <Kev> I'd be surprised if it wasn't, yes.
[10:14:52] <Asterix> ok .. I'll try to find if it's possible with ejabberd to enable that by default
[10:45:34] <MattJ> tofu, any idea who wrote the new Strophe JID-splitting routines?
[10:45:52] <MattJ> I need to know who to poke with my cluestick :)
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[10:52:44] <MattJ> !xep escaping
[10:54:15] <MattJ> Never mind, convinced it's all wrong now, rewriting :)
[10:54:29] <MattJ> Actually no... I have working routines in xmpp.js, never mind
[11:10:13] <Asterix> so no captcha on room creation doesn't work because when you create a room, you're owner of the room, and captcah is not requested
to owner of the room
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[20:19:45] <Kev_> Would someone mind counting to 5 and then saying something, please?
[20:21:14] <waqas> No.
[20:21:20] <Florob> I won't because that'd make me look like slow counter
[20:21:22] <Kev_> Thanks.
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