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[05:04:32] <;;lk> шо за ппц тут?
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[09:21:27] <islevegan> anybody know the "XMPP Bosh URL" for jabber.org?
[09:24:09] <MattJ> islevegan, we don't have BOSH, though it's on our roadmap (with no ETA)
[09:24:15] <MattJ> Someone needs to give the admins a kick :)
[09:24:35] <islevegan> hehe, thank matt! :-)
[09:24:55] <islevegan> any public bosh enabled servers?
[09:25:27] <MattJ> Good question, I'm sure there are
[09:25:46] <islevegan> i was looking, not finding yet
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[09:55:24] <MattJ> islevegan, it looks like thiessen.im/thiessen.org does
[09:55:43] <islevegan> very cool, how did you find / determine that?
[09:56:26] <MattJ> I know the admin and asked (he runs the server software I develop, and hosts our main build machine)
[09:56:59] <MattJ> BOSH is on port 5280 and SSL on 5290, because port 80 redirects to 5222
[09:57:37] <islevegan> ok, i'm experimenting with dxmpp module for drupal content management system
[09:57:52] <islevegan> this stuff leaves lots of blank areas
[09:58:01] <islevegan> no complete documentation
[09:58:07] <islevegan> and it's totally new to me
[09:58:17] <islevegan> i'll try what you mentioned
[09:58:35] <MattJ> Oh, I see
[09:58:51] <MattJ> You're trying to connect to BOSH from Javascript?
[09:59:35] <islevegan> it is this module
[09:59:35] <islevegan> http://drupal.org/project/dxmpp
[09:59:44] <islevegan> it uses strophe
[09:59:48] <islevegan> and several things
[09:59:52] <islevegan> i'm not a programmer
[10:00:42] <MattJ> Ah, ok... that's not going to work with a public server without some assistance on your side
[10:00:52] <islevegan> hmm
[10:01:02] <islevegan> i am trying :-)
[10:01:14] <islevegan> i will do whatever i can
[10:01:24] <MattJ> Javascript isn't allowed to connect to external domains
[10:01:48] <MattJ> So for any BOSH to work you need to proxy via your web server
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[10:02:33] <islevegan> hmm, dxmpp is supposed to allow for regular people to engage in xmpp chats and mucs without doing weird stuff
[10:02:44] <islevegan> or difficult stuff
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[10:03:21] <MattJ> It's usually just a line or two in your web server's config
[10:03:38] <islevegan> there was no mention of that in anything i saw
[10:04:06] <islevegan> what do you mean by "proxy via your web server"?
[10:04:21] <MattJ> Strophe -> web server -> XMPP server
[10:04:36] <islevegan> ok
[10:04:53] <islevegan> well, i have a virtual server, a linode
[10:04:58] <islevegan> so i can do whatever with that
[10:05:12] <MattJ> Excellent, your job is easy then :)
[10:05:12] <islevegan> it's a linux system
[10:05:26] <islevegan> hmm
[10:05:42] <islevegan> i made some changes to the dns manager
[10:06:00] <islevegan> but not sure what i need to do to apache
[10:06:01] <waqas> dxmpp's main page has a screenshot, with several IE broken image icons...
[10:06:06] <islevegan> there was no mention of that anywhere
[10:06:08] <waqas> Not very impressive ^^
[10:06:21] <islevegan> oh, yeah, it says IE 6 is not supported
[10:06:44] <MattJ> waqas, at least it has a screenshot because they committed something to their repository
[10:06:45] <waqas> Erm, why put it as the main screenshot then? :)
[10:06:55] <waqas> I did too!
[10:07:11] <MattJ> searching for changes no changes found
[10:07:54] <islevegan> hmm, well, i wanted a solution that was robust and actively developed that would be scalable yet friendly for people to chat.
[10:08:01] <islevegan> from my drupal site
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[10:08:10] <islevegan> integrating with the user database there
[10:08:31] <islevegan> and hopefully other capabilities, like user relationships, profile stuff, etc
[10:09:15] <islevegan> but this leaves many blank areas
[10:09:45] <MattJ> Indeed, hmm
[10:11:00] <islevegan> i even tried to set up ejabberd this evening on my debian lenny system
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[10:11:21] <islevegan> following this http://library.linode.com/communications/xmpp/ejabberd/debian-5-lenny
[10:11:34] <islevegan> but, i don't know if it's working
[10:13:54] <islevegan> i can follow directions :-)
[10:14:17] <islevegan> you say something needs to be done on the web server?
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[10:28:31] <islevegan> am i still connected?
[10:28:42] <MattJ> You are
[10:28:46] <islevegan> thank you
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[10:28:51] <MattJ> I'd help, but I'm kind of tied up at the moment
[10:29:35] <islevegan> ok, no worries. i've never tried bondage; i hope it's doing the trick :-)
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[12:52:10] <niekie> Hi j@cjo!
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[12:58:31] <niekie> Wow, Empathy just behaved really nasty.
[12:58:37] <niekie> (on Gajim now)
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[15:03:28] <quincyadams20305> no
[15:03:38] <quincyadams20305> no
[15:06:32] <naw> ?
[15:07:35] <stpeter> yes yes yes!
[15:07:55] <naw> is user registration disabled again at jabber.org?
[15:08:01] <stpeter> not that I know of
[15:08:17] <stpeter> does http://register.jabber.org/ not work for you?
[15:08:52] <naw> I thought that I had removed the "Account registration is currently disabled on jabber.org, if you need an account contact Kev or MattJ" from the room topic a moth ago, but I see now
[15:08:58] <naw> *I see it now
[15:09:17] * naw has set the topic to "Welcome to the Jabber help room! | Visit discuss@conference.jabber.org to talk about other topics. This room chats in English -- type !ru (replacing ru with your language code) for rooms in your language.".
[15:09:17] * stpeter has set the topic to "Welcome to the Jabber help room! | Visit discuss@conference.jabber.org to talk about other topics. This room chats in English -- type !ru (replacing ru with your language code) for rooms in your language.".
[15:09:20] <stpeter> hmm
[15:09:24] <naw> /me updates the topic
[15:09:27] <stpeter> done :P
[15:09:34] <naw> I was faster :p
[15:09:46] <stpeter> maybe the topic change didn't "stick" after a server reboot?
[15:09:57] <stpeter> :)
[15:10:09] <MattJ> Could be... or it wasn't persisted in the event of a crash, who knows? :)
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[15:11:27] <stpeter> OT: what's the correct name for those "word-maps" that show the concepts most commonly used at a blog or website?
[15:11:47] <naw> "tag cloud"?
[15:11:59] <stpeter> aha
[15:12:00] <stpeter> thanks
[15:12:03] <naw> :)
[15:12:28] <stpeter> /me needed the phrase while commenting on http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pkix-certimage for the IESG
[15:12:41] <quincyadams20305> what
[15:12:42] <stpeter> I'm wondering what "a visual representation of a certificate" might be
[15:12:48] <stpeter> strange idea :)
[15:13:04] <MattJ> stpeter, ha, I like that :)
[15:14:17] <stpeter> potentially interesting, but rather undefined
[15:16:47] <quincyadams20305> ??
[15:17:22] <MattJ> quincyadams20305, are you lost? Can we help you?
[15:17:47] <MattJ> I'll never forget the day someone came in and asked how to get to Freenode from here
[15:17:55] <stpeter> :)
[15:18:33] <MattJ> /me relocates himself to the great outdoors, back later
[15:20:46] <quincyadams20305> chat nimbuzz???
[15:21:10] <quincyadams20305> every use chat nimbuzz
[15:21:37] <stpeter> aha
[15:22:01] <quincyadams20305> ??
[15:22:05] <stpeter> Nimbuzz has its own chatrooms, but you can't connect to them from here -- you need to have a Nimbuzz account to use their chatrooms
[15:23:35] <quincyadams20305> i'm usually has been kick out room, but not stop
[15:23:51] <quincyadams20305> can i help u stop it?
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[15:24:38] <quincyadams20305> ??
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[16:00:08] <pedro> Kev: PING
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[16:02:02] <pedro> hello guys
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[16:02:52] <pedro> i'm having some s2s connectivity problems from my Gmail account... basically, I can join chats in my jabber cern from swissjabber.ch, but not from gmail.com
[16:02:59] <pedro> i was wondering if this was a known issue
[16:03:25] <pedro> i can join conference.jabber.org chats from pretty much everywhere, gmail included
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[18:18:14] <evilotto> anyone familiar with the ejabberd irc gateway? I have a phantom connection and I'm trying to figure out how to disconnect it.
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[21:01:57] <Joe> Hey, is the jabber server going through some kind of update?
[21:02:07] <Joe> I can't join rooms I've made before.
[21:02:17] <Joe> Or they time out while I am in them.
[21:02:53] <Tobias> the service has recently been restarted
[21:03:24] <Joe> 404 item not found
[21:03:36] <Joe> Is the message I am getting.
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[21:35:07] <TheKingOfFrance> Hey, I tried to set an affiliate status on some users (I am the owner) but it doesn't seem to be working. Is affiliate used on jabber.org?
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[21:35:48] <TheKingOfFrance> Or do I, as the owner, have to "/role moderator" the same users upon entry?
[21:36:17] <evilotto> TheKingOfFrance: hey, didn't you get deposed today?
[21:36:52] <TheKingOfFrance> ... I don't want to talk about it
[21:37:03] <TheKingOfFrance> :(
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[21:38:03] <Joe> naw, when you entered the room, you automatically were promoted to mod, right?
[21:38:22] <Joe> How do I set that up in a convo where I am the owner
[21:39:20] <naw> if you have the affiliation "owner" or "admion" you get the role "moderator" automatically
[21:39:32] <naw> *admin
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[21:39:47] <johnson35636> hello
[21:39:55] <naw> no, put in the owner/admin list those users that you want to be moderators
[21:40:00] <Joe> As owner, I tried to set the affiliation of the others to admib
[21:40:05] <naw> johnson35636: hello
[21:40:20] <Joe> hi johnson35636
[21:40:24] <naw> and you couldn't?
[21:40:45] <Joe> It didn't seem to stick.. they don't appear in the list either.
[21:40:54] <Joe> Can I reference them by nick?
[21:41:03] <johnson35636> since today i dont become offline-messages from other users. other jabber.org become my messages if they are offline. my id is > sammler@jabber.org
[21:41:03] <naw> it depends on the client
[21:41:18] <johnson35636> sry, for my bad english :-)
[21:42:20] <Joe> Thanks naw, if someone else asks - I had to affiliate using their unique identifier (not nick)
[21:42:41] <naw> johnson35636: so, you can't retrieve the offline messages sent to your account, but in other jabber.org accounts the retrieval works?
[21:42:42] <Joe> So sammler@jabber.org if I wanted him to be an admin
[21:43:30] <naw> Joe: yes, most clients give you a list of jabber IDs
[21:43:57] <naw> but pidgin works by nick (/affiliate admin nickname) AFAIK
[21:44:27] <Joe> It didn't stick. The were not added to the affiliate list.
[21:44:37] <Joe> I needed to use their JID
[21:44:58] <johnson35636> if i send to other offline-contacts (jabber.org or other services) they become my messages. but if i'am offline & come back online, i dont become the offline-messages of my buddys. i've dont make changes in my client (pidgin 2.6.6.) and they use pidgin to & some of them use PSI
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[21:46:03] <naw> stpeter: do you have anny idea about the problem of johnson35636? (I hope you aren't too busy)
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[21:55:18] <stpeter> naw: so it sounds as if he is not receiving offline messages -- however, note that we had a server restart earlier and AFAIK M-Link is not keeping offline messages across restarts, so that is probably the issue
[21:59:02] <johnson35636> i dont understall all. the problem is a problem of my account on jabber.org, right?
[21:59:11] <johnson35636> understand
[21:59:31] <stpeter> the problem is our software
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[22:00:11] <johnson35636> oki, thanx. the problem is forever?
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[22:01:44] <stpeter> johnson35636: you see this problem only if we restart the server
[22:01:52] <stpeter> that doesn't happen very often
[22:02:06] <stpeter> eventually it will be fixed, but I'm not sure when (a few months?)
[22:03:46] <johnson35636> ok, i was a little bit surprised, because my other jabber.org-buddys dont have this problem
[22:03:55] <stpeter> hmm
[22:04:02] <stpeter> well, it depends on when you logged in
[22:04:20] <stpeter> if you continue to experience this problem, please tell us
[22:04:27] <stpeter> when did you log in the last time?
[22:04:52] <johnson35636> my last logins you mean?
[22:05:16] <stpeter> yes
[22:06:11] <johnson35636> i dont know. every day I'm online. and since today or yesterday i have this problem
[22:07:06] <stpeter> johnson35636: the server rebooted 1.5 hours ago
[22:07:11] <stpeter> did you log in since then, or before then?
[22:08:24] <johnson35636> yes, i have seen that you have reboot. my account was disconnected. it can be that the error comes after the reboot. yes, i was online before you have reboot & after you have rebbot.
[22:08:44] <stpeter> ok
[22:09:11] <stpeter> we don't have any special, per-user settings for accounts, so it is strange that you experienced a problem and no one else did
[22:09:34] <stpeter> as I say, if you have this problem again then please join this chatroom and we will investigate further
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[22:10:21] <johnson35636> ok
[22:10:36] <stpeter> I'm sorry about the problem
[22:10:48] <stpeter> I have this too (often I don't receive offline messages when I log in)
[22:10:57] <stpeter> e.g., if I log in after a reboot
[22:11:31] <johnson35636> so, it can be that the problem is away tomorrow or so...
[22:12:49] <stpeter> yes, possible
[22:13:26] <johnson35636> oki, so i dont must make my computer new :-)
[22:13:40] <stpeter> right :)
[22:14:06] <johnson35636> ok, that's important :-9
[22:14:16] <stpeter> yes :)
[22:16:10] <johnson35636> oki, thanx for the help. i wish a good night or day (whatever now is in your country). see ya!
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[01:26:07] <darko-a87> hi
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