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[09:33:51] <paramtadam> !xep 060
[09:33:51] <HAL> XEP-0060: Publish-Subscribe is Standards Track (Draft, 2008-09-03) See: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html
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[10:33:20] <washington7891> Does somebody know how many concurrent users a XMPP server can serve?
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[10:34:18] <Kev> Depends on the hardware and the software. Also depends *heavily* on the usage patterns.
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[10:37:49] <washington7891> yes, i know depends on the h/w. do you know where to get the information for any current active XMPP server can serve? Is the number in 'k', '10k', or '100k' range?
[10:38:09] <MattJ> Yes
[10:38:18] <Kev> I can give numbers for jabber.org
[10:38:27] <Kev> Or for my personal server :)
[10:38:39] <washington7891> please provide the information, thanks.
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[10:39:02] <Kev> jabber.org comfortably does 16k concurrent users with a registered userbase of 330k users.
[10:39:38] <Kev> My server comfortably does all 10 registered users online at once ;)
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[10:39:47] <washington7891> haha, you good!
[10:40:20] <washington7891> do you know where is the possible bottleneck? bandwidth or h/w limitation?
[10:40:43] <Kev> You're unlikely to hit a bandwidth limitation.
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[10:40:55] <Kev> (Unless you try running jabber.org off your home DSL or something)
[10:41:21] <Kev> On jabber.org there are two limitations - one's a bug that should be fixed soon, and the other's the number of registered users.
[10:42:10] <washington7891> Is it on a server? or on multiple servers?
[10:42:17] <Kev> One node.
[10:42:22] <Kev> It could be clustered, but isn't.
[10:43:25] <washington7891> so it's possible to server more concurrent users by upgrading the H/W? no limitation on XMPP server application itself?
[10:44:24] <Kev> Right, hundreds of thousands of concurrent users should be fine, given enough hardware (and depending on usage patterns)
[10:45:10] <washington7891> Got it, thanks Kev. do you know where to get such information, for reference?
[10:45:30] <Kev> Not really.
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[10:46:07] <Kev> Benchmarks are hard to do in any way that's meaningful in the real world.
[10:48:14] <washington7891> it's true. that's why i want to have some concepts, and numbers first
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[10:50:05] <Kev> Well - for full disclosure here, I'm a jabber.org admin, and I also now work for Isode, the company who make M-Link (the XMPP software that runs jabber.org).
[10:52:48] <Kev> So I can point you at Isode's sales guys if you're out shopping...
[10:53:05] <Kev> but I have multiple obvious biases.
[10:54:30] <washington7891> i am just in survey stage. anyway, thanks for your information
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[14:49:24] <monroe36070> Hi, was wondering how to delete a chat room.
[14:49:54] <Kev> There should be a 'Destroy room' or similar button in your XMPP client.
[14:52:18] <monroe36070> Do not see the Destroy button. Using Exodus and trying to delete a jabber chat room.
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[14:58:08] <naw> monroe36070: try making it non-permanent, then it whould be deleted when it gets empty
[15:01:02] <monroe36070> I guess my problem is finding these options to delete, making non permanent. I can create a room and now need to delete one.
[15:05:59] <elmo> as a less-than-ideal solution you could use another client to destroy the room, e.g. psi has the option to destroy rooms
[15:08:22] <naw> monroe36070: right click on the room window, admin, configure conference room
[15:13:22] <monroe36070> Naw Thanx I see where there is a destroy option.
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[15:14:25] <naw> there isn't one, as far I have seen
[15:14:34] <naw> but you can make the room non-permanent
[15:14:55] <naw> and then it will be deleted when everybody lefts the room
[15:15:59] <monroe36070> naw, Understand, right below config, there is a destroy room option will try that. Maybe it appears if I am the only one in the room.
[15:17:16] <naw> oh, well, maybe I didn't did a good search :p
[15:19:28] <monroe36070> naw, as far as I am concerned you help me and it is much appreciated.
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[15:21:20] <naw> :)
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[16:17:20] <gowdaamrutha7> Hai
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[16:30:55] <ramakantam324> j
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[17:30:32] <johnson64365> Hi! I'm new, I read the faq, but no answer there. The JID (you know: username@jabber.org) looks like an email address. Does this mean that one can write ordinary email to this address? Thanks
[17:30:51] <MattJ> Hi
[17:30:54] <MattJ> No, it doesn't
[17:31:18] <MattJ> Sometimes someone may have the same JID and email address, but it doesn't have to be that way
[17:31:48] <johnson64365> Then, how to contact someone? Only by xmpp/jabber client?
[17:31:53] <MattJ> Correct
[17:31:58] <johnson64365> Ok, thanks you.
[17:32:04] <MattJ> You're welcome :)
[17:32:04] <naw> that kind of address means that you want to contact to the user "username" at the server "jabber.org"
[17:32:29] <johnson64365> Yeah... just like an email address.
[17:32:32] <naw> that kind of address is used in email, in jabber, in ssh and even in http
[17:33:07] <naw> some providers give you email and jabber, if you are interested check out gmail or gmx
[17:33:36] <naw> there can be more, but I'm not aware of them
[17:33:41] <johnson64365> I know gmail but what is gmx?
[17:34:13] <naw> another email provider with also has jabber
[17:34:33] <johnson64365> Ok, thank you all.
[17:34:41] <naw> :)
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[20:18:09] <mandardhongdi123> HHHIIIIIIIIII
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[22:32:02] <Mati> MattJ, btw, does jabber.org has munin running somewhere?
[22:33:54] <Mati> or any other big jabber installation? ;-)
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[22:48:59] <MattJ> Mati, we have something (I don't think it's Munin) running somewhere, but I don't think it's public at the moment
[22:49:01] <MattJ> It should be
[22:49:39] <Mati> MattJ, I have a little munin plugin that monitors the amount of traffic (together with a few iptables rules) and I thought it'd interesting to have that for some big installation
[22:50:37] <MattJ> Well we used to have such a thing, but it died some time back - since the migration we've got some monitoring back again, we'll have to see about making it public
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[03:48:00] <mandardhongdi123> HHIII
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