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[16:42:10] <Fritzy> Can anyone recommend a C library for an embedded device?
[16:42:26] <Fritzy> I need something that absolutely doesn't leak.
[16:43:10] <Kev> I've never used a C library - C++ isn't doable?
[16:44:02] <Fritzy> That's a negatory on the C++
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[16:47:12] <zanchin> i've used strophe with openwrt successfully, but I didn't do any memory profiling on it
[16:48:16] <Fritzy> I'm leaning towards strophe, but it's the new kid on the block. I know that some of the commits in recent history have been
memory-leak fixes.
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[17:00:00] <johnny> MattJ, didn't you use C strophe for somethin?
[17:00:11] <MattJ> I did
[17:00:15] <johnny> if so, tell Fritzy your experiences
[17:00:25] <MattJ> Fritzy, libstrophe is fine
[17:00:32] <MattJ> If stanza manipulation is a bit hairy in C
[17:00:39] <MattJ> But I used it on an embedded device too
[17:01:04] <Fritzy> *nod*
[17:01:15] <MattJ> I contributed some patches for it, XPath and XEP-0114 support (actually I think the last one was waqas) but I'm not sure it
got merged
[17:01:24] <MattJ> and an example
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[17:02:02] <Fritzy> very cool, thanks.
[17:02:21] <Fritzy> looks like the github origin is way out of date
[17:03:12] <MattJ> If you're going by the last commit date, it may not be... libstrophe is more or less on the back-burner I think
[17:03:29] <MattJ> It works, but I think most of the effort is put into Strophe.js
[17:03:52] <Fritzy> yeah, there are commits from early this month on the stanzaiq.com origin. :)
[17:05:31] <johnny> too bad an entire js parser is too big for what people call "embedded" atm
[17:05:48] <johnny> altho we're certainly on the path of that changing
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[17:07:14] <MattJ> To be honest I'd use Lua if I were doing the same project again
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[17:09:44] <johnny> MattJ, sure... you would.. but would you recommend anybody else do the same
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[17:10:14] <MattJ> Sure... I would :)
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[17:52:43] <Tobias> is it legal for the server to respond with a different username on bind?
[17:53:02] <Tobias> compared to the username used during SASL
[17:54:06] <darkrain42> !xmpp-core
[17:54:16] <darkrain42> !ding
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[17:57:28] <waqas> Tobias: Yes, seeing as how prepping would do that :/
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[17:57:35] <darkrain42> It doesn't seem to be disallowed
[17:57:40] <Tobias> k
[17:57:45] <Tobias> :/
[18:00:35] <Tobias> waqas: is it allowed to change the domain part too?
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[18:01:40] <waqas> Everything may be different from what the user specified (due to prepping). And full replacement isn't forbidden AFAIK.
[18:01:51] <darkrain42> It doesn't seem to be specified one way or the other.
[18:02:14] <waqas> It would confuse clients of course.
[18:02:41] <darkrain42> Some clients support it (libpurple), due to Google Talk offering the ability to swap gmail.com and googlemail.com when logging
in
[18:02:52] <Florob> if you compare to the "username" used during sasl it can be totally different. The username is a opaque string AFAIK
[18:03:15] <Tobias> k
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[18:35:06] <Florob> On a quite related note. Does anybody know a client that let's you choose a login different from your JID? Psi allows you
to log in as a different person, but that's not quite what I want...
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[18:37:12] <MattJ> If I did I'd consider it a bug
[18:38:17] <Florob> because?
[18:38:37] <MattJ> Because they can't choose the JID, it's given in resource binding
[18:40:10] <Florob> MattJ, that's different. I want to freely specify what the username in SASL auth is, there is no relation to the JID there
AFAIK (even though usually assuemd for simplicity)
[18:41:11] <MattJ> I see, so you just want to set the SASL authentication identity
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[18:42:19] <Florob> yes. authzid for PLAIN specifcally
[18:42:42] <darkrain42> authcid?
[18:43:07] <Florob> wait...
[18:43:34] <evilotto> sounds illegal: "For client-to-server communication, the client's bare JID (<localpart@domain>) MUST be the authorization
identity (as defined by [SASL] (Melnikov, A. and K. Zeilenga, “Simple Authentication and Security Layer (SASL),” June 2006.)),
either (1) as directly communicated by the client during SASL negotiation (SASL Negotiation) or (2) as derived by the server
from the authentication identity if no authorization identity was specified during SASL negotiation (SASL Negotiation). "
[18:44:48] <evilotto> oh wait, authentication identity, not authorization identity.
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[18:46:36] <Florob> nono, it actually applies...
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[18:46:46] <Florob> I think I just need a big stick to beat them with
[18:47:05] <stpeter> hmph these popup toasty things are annoying
[18:47:16] <stpeter> switching to a different client :)
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[18:49:06] <darkrain42> "derived by the server from the authentication identity" seems pretty wide open to interpretation
[18:49:50] <deryni> "Today everyone will be Bob."
[18:50:45] <Florob> darkrain42, wide open as in, if i put JID1 as authentication ID it might derive JID2 is the authorization ID?
[18:51:23] <evilotto> there's a different section that is more in like with what you're asking - http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-xmpp-3920bis-08.html#sasl-rules-authzid
- "If the initiating entity wishes to act on behalf of another entity and the selected SASL mechanism supports transmission
of an authorization identity, the initiating entity MUST provide an authorization identity during SASL negotiation."&c
[18:51:28] <darkrain42> Florob: sure.
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[18:53:41] <evilotto> (who decided to call it authorization/authentication in the first place anyway, instead of the less-easily confused authorization/identification?)
[18:55:19] <stpeter> evilotto: we got that from SASL
[18:56:11] <stpeter> bbiab
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[19:03:39] <evilotto> I suspect sasl got it from somewhere else too.
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[19:35:36] <stpeter> evilotto: perhaps
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[19:37:06] <Kev> Can we just put in a peer control to ban gmail users from MUCs?
[19:38:36] <MattJ> That would be... popular
[19:38:48] <Kev> It'd be popular with the users that're left :)
[19:40:59] <evilotto> I'd be happy if my client could ignore join/leave notifications from a user even if that user isn't currently in the chatroom...
[19:41:22] <stpeter> evilotto: makes sense
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[19:41:58] <stpeter> I've banned that klk person
[19:42:17] <stpeter> he can join via Speeqe :)
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