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[06:33:17] <pierce37132> Hi ，i have registered successful,but use Adium software don't connect Jabber. why?
[06:34:10] <pierce37132> can you tell me how to it ?
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[06:42:48] <lincoln23756> Hi
[06:43:29] <lincoln23756> Hi all i need a document for features of jabber chat over other IM s/w like skype...etc..
[06:43:58] <lincoln23756> Hi all i need a document for features of jabber chat over other IM s/w like skype...etc..
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[07:11:47] <lincoln23756> Hi all i need a document for features of jabber chat over other IM s/w like skype...etc..
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[07:17:32] <MattJ> lincoln23756, I'm not aware of such a document
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[08:54:41] <washington63724> Hello, everybody
[08:55:14] <washington63724> anyone there?
[08:56:29] <Kev> Probably.
[08:56:51] <washington63724> Can anybody tell me how to login jabber account with Empathy?
[08:57:13] <Kev> You should be able to just enter your JID and password and it should do the rest.
[08:57:32] <washington63724> thank you Kev
[08:57:41] <washington63724> but it doesn't work
[08:58:17] <Kev> In what way?
[08:58:30] <washington63724> the empathy tell me an error named network error
[08:59:57] <Kev> What server?
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[09:02:46] <washington63724> Should I specify a server ?
[09:03:07] <Kev> To empathy you must give your JID.
[09:03:13] <Kev> I want to know what the server part of your JID is.
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[09:03:28] <washington63724> the default port 5222
[09:03:46] <Kev> Ok, just give me your full JID, that's likely to be easiest.
[09:04:09] <washington63724> I wrote my JID and password in empathy but without a server
[09:04:18] <washington63724> OK
[09:04:31] <washington63724> supersume@jabber.org
[09:04:38] <washington63724> this is my JID
[09:04:52] <Kev> And if you open up a terminal and type telnet jabber.org 5222 What happens?
[09:05:14] <washington63724> wait a second
[09:05:36] <washington63724> successful
[09:05:53] <Kev> So type </> or something, and it says something about an invalid stream?
[09:06:35] <washington63724> you mean I need to specity jabber.org as my server?
[09:06:53] <Kev> Empathy should work that out for itself.
[09:07:22] <Kev> It's not going to hurt to put hermes.jabber.org in there, though.
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[09:10:15] <washington63724> in the telnet terminal, there is nothing
[09:10:33] <Kev> Did you type in </> as I asked?
[09:11:01] <washington63724> yes, I typed / first
[09:11:18] <Kev> And what happened when you pressed enter?
[09:12:24] <washington63724> sorry, I tried </> this time, and gets the invalid stream message
[09:12:29] <Kev> Good.
[09:12:40] <Kev> So this is a problem with Empathy or your setup of it, then.
[09:13:11] <washington63724> the problem of my empathy?
[09:14:00] <washington63724> did you mean I need to reinstall it ?
[09:14:12] <Kev> I suspect you've just not got the options right.
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[09:14:37] <washington63724> pls help me out
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[09:15:49] <washington63724> should i use old ssl ?
[09:15:54] <Kev> No.
[09:16:12] <Kev> You should just need to put in your JID, let Empathy work out the server and port, and put in your password.
[09:16:45] <Kev> Wait.
[09:16:57] <Kev> Does it ask for 'JID', 'Account', 'username' or whatever?
[09:17:08] <washington63724> BTW, I am using Fedora 13
[09:17:50] <washington63724> it said Login ID instead
[09:18:18] <Kev> I guess you can try just putting the user part of the jid in there, the server part in server, and seeing what it does.
[09:18:19] <washington63724> I think I should type JID there
[09:18:33] <washington63724> without domain name?
[09:18:53] <Kev> If you've tried it as a JID, and it didn't work, trying it as just the node seems sensible.
[09:20:17] <washington63724> empathy shows an example like this user@jabber.org, I think I need to type supersume@jabber.org there
[09:21:00] <Kev> If it has an example of your JID, then use your JID.
[09:21:19] <Kev> But you told me you'd already done that, and it didn't work.
[09:21:46] <washington63724> no,it didn't work at all
[09:23:03] <washington63724> I don't understand why empathy returns an error named "network error"
[09:23:54] <washington63724> the version of empathy is 2.30.1
[09:25:21] <washington63724> I don't think there is anything to do with my network connectivity
[09:25:34] <Kev> No, you proved that with telnet.
[09:26:03] <washington63724> bugs with empathy?
[09:27:10] <washington63724> Kev, what client are you using for jabber account?
[09:27:31] <Kev> Swift and Psi.
[09:28:46] <washington63724> which is the best client for group chatting?
[09:29:15] <Kev> Depends entirely on your tastes.
[09:31:27] <washington63724> I am a newbie on group chatting, pls just give me some suggestion
[09:34:23] <Kev> Try Psi, then.
[09:34:35] <washington63724> thank you very much
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[16:29:07] <reagan26751> same problem with empathy but gajim ok
[16:30:02] <stpeter> reagan26751: which problem?
[16:30:24] <reagan26751> network error
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[16:31:03] <waqas> That's a useful error message :)
[16:31:39] <reagan26751> are you kidding?
[16:31:45] <Kev> waqas: especially when there's no network error, yes.
[16:31:53] <waqas> reagan26751, yes.
[16:32:19] <reagan26751> hahahaaaa
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[17:44:59] <mazen0.9200723810792> hello
[17:45:10] <stpeter> hi
[17:45:58] <mazen0.9200723810792> what is the stanzas for "leave room "
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[17:47:23] <yung0.5097505219746381> hi
[17:47:36] <stpeter> mazen0.9200723810792 your client just sends presence of type unavailable
[17:48:05] <mazen0.9200723810792> do you have an example ,its not working fro me
[17:49:00] <waqas> mazen0.9200723810792: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#exit
[17:49:13] <mazen0.9200723810792> let me check
[17:49:59] <mazen0.9200723810792> does it take time to exit the room after invoking this stanzas
[17:50:29] <stpeter> no time
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[17:51:06] <mazen0.9200723810792> strange its not working
[17:51:09] <stpeter> I need to cook up some lunch, bbiab
[17:51:41] <waqas> What are you sending?
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[17:53:10] <mazen0.9200723810792> am not sending the "from" in stanzas does it matter.
[17:54:32] <waqas> No
[17:54:39] <waqas> Not for clients
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[17:58:09] <mazen0.9200723810792> thx
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[18:14:07] <shamsher.lamba> hi
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[18:55:02] <vz6> hi
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[18:57:35] <vz6> why my leaving stanaz doesn't work immediately?
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[19:00:41] * Kev has set the topic to "Welcome to the Jabber help room! | Visit discuss@conference.jabber.org to talk about other topics. This room chats in English -- type !ru (replacing ru with your language code) for rooms in your language.".
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[19:07:13] <vz8> Hello
[19:07:16] <vz8> question
[19:07:38] <vz8> i am building an xmpp client
[19:07:55] <vz8> trying to create a new chat room
[19:08:12] <vz8> using presence like:
[19:08:43] <vz8> <presence to='myroom@conference.jabber.org/me' xmlns='jabber:client'><x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc'/></presence>
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[19:09:18] <Kev> That looks about right.
[19:09:39] <vz8> presence to='myroom@conference.jabber.org/me' xmlns='jabber:client'><x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc'/></presence
[19:09:53] <vz8> i take the < out since it becomes blank
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[19:10:04] <Kev> No it doesn't.
[19:10:17] <vz8> the response shows the new room has been created
[19:10:27] <vz8> i can see the response xmpp
[19:10:29] <Kev> Unsurprising.
[19:10:38] <vz8> me as owner
[19:10:49] <vz8> affiliation also right
[19:10:58] <vz8> the problem is i can't not join the room
[19:11:12] <Kev> You can't *not* join the room?
[19:11:18] <vz8> right...
[19:11:31] <vz8> i tried to join with another user, it also failed
[19:11:32] <Kev> If you don't want to join the room, don't send the presence.
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[19:11:37] <Kev> Well, did you unlock the room?
[19:11:43] <Kev> You can't join it with another user until you do.
[19:11:51] <vz8> how to unlock the room?
[19:11:55] <Kev> Read the XEP :)
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[19:12:12] <vz8> but even the user who creates the room can't join...
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[19:12:30] <vz8> see, when i sent the presence to create the room
[19:12:57] <vz8> shouldn't i be in the room after sending the presence?
[19:13:11] <vz8> just like i join this room by sending presence
[19:13:11] <Kev> Yes.
[19:13:18] <Kev> But the room will be locked.
[19:13:25] <vz8> but the result was i was not in the room...
[19:13:42] <vz8> at least the owner should be in the room, right>
[19:14:06] <Kev> The resource that created it, yes.
[19:14:38] <vz8> i tried, it doesn't take me in the room
[19:15:02] <Kev> Feel free to pastebin the transcript.
[19:15:16] <vz8> here is the presnece i sent
[19:15:18] <vz8> <presence to='vz_demo@conference.jabber.org/yung' xmlns='jabber:client'><x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc'/></presence>
[19:15:27] <vz8> you can read my presence?
[19:15:36] <Kev> Yes.
[19:15:45] <Kev> That looks right.
[19:15:45] <vz8> cool, i am seeing blank :D
[19:15:55] <vz8> yes, it looks right
[19:16:22] <vz8> but after sending the presence, i am not in the room, rather i am back to the login page
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[19:16:42] <vz8> unlike i sent the presence to jabber@jabber.org
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[19:18:31] <vz8> any idea what was wrong, Kev?
[19:18:41] <Kev> You haven't sent me a transcript yet.
[19:18:51] <vz8> here is the presence
[19:19:08] <vz8> <presence to='vz_demo@conference.jabber.org/yung' xmlns='jabber:client'><x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc'/></presence>
[19:19:49] <Kev> Put in a pastebin everything that happens in the stream.
[19:20:58] <vz8> here is when i tried to create a new room: vz_demo2
[19:21:32] <vz8> <presence to='vz_demo2@conference.jabber.org/yung' xmlns='jabber:client'> <x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc'/> </presence> <presence xmlns='jabber:client' to='yung@jabber.org/8885b370e11f8978' from='vz_demo2@conference.jabber.org/yung'> <x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#user'> <item affiliation='owner' role='moderator'/> <status code='201'/> </x> </presence>
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[19:21:51] <vz8> the response lookk perfect
[19:21:55] <Kev> Right, so you're in the room, great.
[19:22:09] <vz8> no...
[19:22:14] <vz8> that's the sad part
[19:22:20] <vz8> i am not in the room
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[19:23:22] <vz8> when i tried to join the room with a nick name
[19:23:30] <vz8> i got this response
[19:23:31] <vz8> <presence to='vz_demo2@conference.jabber.org/vz8' xmlns='jabber:client'> <x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc'/> </presence> <presence xmlns='jabber:client' to='yung@jabber.org/8885b370e11f8978' from='vz_demo2@conference.jabber.org' type='error'> <x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc'/> <error code='404' type='cancel'> <item-not-found xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/> </error> </presence>
[19:24:10] <Kev> Because you haven't unlocked the room.
[19:24:16] <Kev> Read the section in the XEP on creating a room.
[19:24:34] <vz8> ok, that's for the regular user
[19:24:51] <vz8> but how come when i create the room, i am not in the room?
[19:25:27] <Kev> You are.
[19:25:41] <Kev> The presence you received showed you htat.
[19:25:48] <vz8> i don't see the chat room like this one
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[19:26:02] <vz8> i am back to the login screen...
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[19:48:46] <vz8> Hi Kev
[19:48:47] <vz8> <presence to='vz_demo4@conference.jabber.org/vz8' xmlns='jabber:client'> <x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc'/> </presence> <presence xmlns='jabber:client' to='yung@jabber.org/8885b370e11f8978' from='vz_demo4@conference.jabber.org/vz8'> <x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#user'> <item affiliation='owner' role='moderator'/> <status code='201'/> </x> </presence>
[19:49:00] <vz8> can you please check the xmpp
[19:49:18] <vz8> doesn't the server suppose to send 2 status code
[19:49:23] <vz8> one 110 and 201
[19:49:24] <vz8> ?
[19:50:06] <vz8> it looks like only 201 is sent back
[19:55:26] <Kev> Yes, it SHOULD send 110 as well. The problem is that there are various buggy clients out there that ignore all except one status code. So some servers only send one status code, whichever is most important, to try and work around this.
[19:55:58] <waqas> I don't like status codes very much.
[19:56:04] <vz8> i see
[19:56:18] <vz8> thanks a lot
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[20:00:33] <evilotto> is there a testsuite for xmpp server implementations that would tell you which things it's doing correctly and which it isn't?
[20:00:52] <waqas> Not yet
[20:05:36] <Kev> vz8: I'm discussing fixing the server at the moment.
[20:05:56] <Kev> Psi was fixed in 0.12, I think, and I hope Pidgin has been fixed by now (this was a problem in 2008).
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[20:08:34] <vz8> ok
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[20:42:56] <vz8> i went through http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#enter-locked quickly
[20:43:08] <vz8> it is talking about config the room
[20:43:30] <vz8> it also mentioned room should be unlocked for other to be abloe to join
[20:43:42] <vz8> but there is no stanza for that..
[20:44:17] <waqas> It gets unlocked once you reply to the config form.
[20:44:51] <waqas> Does your client send replies for IQs it doesn't understand?
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[21:13:17] <vz6> i am fairly new to xmpp, how to reply the config form, i am sending the following and got no response:
[21:13:26] <vz6> <iq from='yung@jabber.org/vz8' id='create1' to='vz_demo4@conference.jabber.org/vz8' type='set'> <query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#owner'> <x xmlns='jabber:x:data' type='submit'/> </query> </iq>
[21:19:30] <vz6> here comes the result
[21:19:30] <vz6> <iq from='yung@jabber.org/vz8' id='create1' to='vz_demo4@conference.jabber.org/vz8' type='set'> <query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#owner'> <x xmlns='jabber:x:data' type='submit'/> </query> </iq> <iq xmlns='jabber:client' to='yung@jabber.org/vz8' from='vz_demo4@conference.jabber.org/vz8' id='create1' type='error'> <error code='404' type='cancel'> <item-not-found xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/> </error> </iq>
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[21:26:44] <vz9> <iq from='yung@jabber.org/vz8' id='create3' to='vz_demo3@conference.jabber.org/vz8' type='set'> <query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#owner'> <x xmlns='jabber:x:data' type='submit'/> </query> </iq> <iq xmlns='jabber:client' to='yung@jabber.org/vz8' from='vz_demo3@conference.jabber.org/vz8' id='create3' type='error'> <error code='405' type='cancel'> <not-allowed xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas'/> </error> </iq>
[21:26:54] <vz9> here is another result
[21:27:00] <vz9> error code 405
[21:27:08] <vz9> 405 Error Presence Entering a room Inform user that room creation is restricted
[21:29:03] <vz9> anything wrong with the iq?
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[21:32:43] <vz9> Hi Kev
[21:32:55] <Kev_> Hi.
[21:33:00] <vz9> question
[21:33:45] <vz9> i sent the following stanza to request creating a room:
[21:33:54] <vz9> <presence to='vz_demo4@conference.jabber.org/vz8' xmlns='jabber:client'> <x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc'/> </presence>
[21:34:01] <vz9> response:
[21:34:21] <vz9> <presence xmlns='jabber:client' to='yung@jabber.org/25eff0875014cfb9' from='vz_demo4@conference.jabber.org/vz8'> <x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#user'> <item affiliation='owner' role='moderator'/> <status code='201'/> </x> </presence>
[21:34:29] <vz9> then i sent the following IQ for unlocking
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[21:34:38] <vz9> <iq from='yung@jabber.org/vz8' id='create10' to='vz_demo4@conference.jabber.org/vz8' type='set'> <query xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#owner'> <x xmlns='jabber:x:data' type='submit'/> </query> </iq>
[21:34:48] <vz9> I don't see any response back...
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[21:36:16] <Kev_> You shouldn't be sending the config form to the full jid, should you? Shouldn't it be the bare jid?
[21:36:56] <vz9> you meant the jid on the from field?
[21:37:09] <Kev_> on the to - you shouldn't be setting the from.
[21:37:24] <vz9> no from?
[21:37:40] <Kev_> It would be nice to not use production services for testing your client, btw.
[21:38:07] <Kev_> It's pretty easy to grab a copy of Prosody and run that locally.
[21:38:11] <vz9> is there a test service i can try?
[21:38:29] <Kev_> You could just run a server locally.
[21:39:12] <vz9> yes, i tried to set up an openfire server
[21:39:32] <vz9> but when i am not able to connect to it
[21:39:47] <vz9> guess i have to set up a BOSH manager locally as welklk
[21:39:53] <vz9> i will try
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[22:38:00] <smash6> Hi guys
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[00:07:15] <vanburen27864> hey
[00:07:32] <vanburen27864> i was wondering if i could run a jabber server off my personal server
[00:11:52] <zanchin> yes, it's easy to run your own jabber server :)
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