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[06:45:20] <Jo-Erlend Schinstad> uh... To me it looks like I just said something about jabberd2 and that naw replied to it? I didn't. That was yesterday.. Weird.
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[06:53:44] <madison16733> video broadcast possible?
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[07:23:51] <Jo-Erlend Schinstad> this is starting to get annoying. I receive yesterdays backlog over and over again. Is this due to problems between gmail.com and jabber.org?
[07:25:21] <Kev> What's happening is the gmail server is sending a stanza to jabber.org every 5 minutes saying "Hi, I'm not in this room, and I'd like to join it", so jabber.org is re-joining you to the room.
[07:25:56] <dustin> I'm having the opposite problem... Adium google users and my ejabberd server are making users frustrated.
[07:26:17] <Kev> dustin: opposite problem?
[07:26:38] <dustin> Very often, I end up with a user ``stuck'' in our MUC in such a way that they just can't enter it.
[07:26:49] <Kev> Ah, right.
[07:26:57] <dustin> This guy just logged out and logged back in. I can see him in there twice, he sees every message twice, but there's only one of him.
[07:27:25] <dustin> A lot of times, it's just unavailable for some people. Is there anything I can do to sync it to reality?
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[07:28:30] <dustin> Heh, apparently I just rejoined.
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[07:52:10] <Jo-Erlend Schinstad> are these problems common, or is it just a temporary thing?
[07:52:41] <Kev> Google's stanza retransmission stuff has been causing problems for a very long time.
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[07:53:05] <dustin> Is that breaking my own MUC?
[07:53:06] <Kev> This particular symptom is new, since jabber.org deployed an upgrade to improve muc reliability.
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[07:53:59] <Kev> dustin: it's not clear to me what your problem is.
[07:54:17] <dustin> I'm not sure I know all of the problems I've seen.
[07:54:28] <dustin> In *this* case, a user has presence in a MUC when he shouldn't.
[07:54:37] <dustin> Logging out/back in doesn't make the user exit the MUC.
[07:55:47] <dustin> So he gets a lot of conflict errors attempting to join.
[07:56:19] <dustin> I've had that one as well, though sometimes it's a more generic 503 (and I can get those when other google users are actually there).
[07:56:41] <Kev> That doesn't sound like the same issue - that just sounds like s2s instability.
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[18:16:52] <eu> test
[18:17:00] <eu> another test
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[18:35:39] <mоtоr> I see your jid's :-"
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[18:36:57] <naw> motоr: are you sure?
[18:37:15] <naw> you shouldn't be able to see them
[18:37:23] <Sanek.> Why the participant after will change the name, starts to see jid other participants. Viewing is resolved only for moderators.
[18:37:30] <Kev> naw: yes, it's a bug.
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[18:37:40] <naw> :(
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[18:37:41] <Kev> A bug in both the client and the server, in fact.
[18:37:56] <mоtоr> naw: lambda... :-) it's your
[18:38:02] <naw> yep
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[19:48:23] <taruti> does this work?
[19:49:02] <evilotto> does what work?
[19:49:43] <taruti> apparently it did :)
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[06:48:01] <Jo-Erlend Schinstad> what happens if I have two resources with the same positive priority and someone sends me a message to my bare jid?
[06:48:24] <Donovan> someone's head probably explodes
[06:48:39] <Kev> Jo-Erlend Schinstad: the recommended behaviour is that both receive it
[06:49:32] <MattJ> but it's up to the server
[06:50:35] <MattJ> some of the existing ones use magic to decide, like deciding which was is the most "active", whatever that means
[06:50:53] <MattJ> so sending to both is the more attractive option in my opinion
[06:50:57] <Donovan> From a programmer's standpont, I can see 'good' reasons to send it to either one
[06:51:03] <Kev> MattJ: well, it was up to the server in 3921 - in 3921bis it's a SHOULD, isn't it?
[06:51:06] <Donovan> or at least, plausible reasons
[06:52:06] <Kev> Yes, bis says you should send to all tied resources.
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[06:52:51] <MattJ> Kev, yes, you're right - it's stronger in bis than I recalled
[06:53:14] <MattJ> Good to know we're doing the right thing as ever :)
[06:53:22] <Donovan> I have fond memories of arguing SHOULD, MUST and MAY, etc. :)
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[07:05:36] <Jo-Erlend Schinstad> thanks. :)
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[09:27:09] <home.> س ع
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[12:30:25] <guysoft> hey, is it possible that the reason that i can't connect to Jabber in Israel is because lack if EDNS support?
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[12:39:46] <guysoft> hmm, could it be because UDP packet size is 512?
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