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[07:58:09] <mazzachre> WHat are the sender address from the mailing lists? (For spamfilter settings)
[07:58:35] <Kev> That depends on the mailing list.
[07:59:05] <mazzachre> pubsub
[08:01:13] <Kev> pubsub@, I believe.
[08:02:37] <mazzachre> pubsub@xmpp.org ?
[08:02:52] <Kev> Right.
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[13:25:26] <mazzachre> Is it my mail system or have there been absolutly no messages on the pubub mailinglist for the past 2 weeks?
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[13:26:28] <Kev> Seems entirely possible.
[13:26:59] <waqas> http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/pubsub/2010-April/date.html - "Last message date: Mon Apr 19 08:11:17 CDT 2010"
[13:27:12] <waqas> None in May.
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[13:40:31] <mazzachre> Oh... people are not very active...
[13:40:44] <mazzachre> We need a revolution... where did I put my AK47...
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[13:45:01] <petermount> hehe
[13:49:44] <Zash> /me pulls out the air rifle and the blowgun
[13:50:11] <Zash> Who do we fight?!
[13:50:34] <waqas> First, make sure pubsub isn't already dead ^^
[14:04:50] <mazzachre> But... but... I am implementing a new pubsub component... If it is dead... Then I am building a Zombie??
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[14:06:16] <waqas> That's cool in a way.
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[14:19:38] <mazzachre> Heh
[14:21:03] <mazzachre> Well... I am implementing stuff that is not yet in the std.-.. So I wanted to write up some things to put in std...
[14:21:10] <mazzachre> I will have to look into that...
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[16:21:30] <MattJ> Oh, Coversant is still alive
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[16:28:00] <stpeter> MattJ: it seems so, yes
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[16:31:19] <MattJ> /me has completed his voting duties
[16:31:29] <stpeter> did that yesterday, myself
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[16:48:29] <stpeter> MattJ: I like "I have too much to do" -- it perhaps at least gets your interlocutor thinking about how they could take some tasks off your hands :)
[16:49:19] <MattJ> :)
[16:49:46] <MattJ> I've resolved to stop saying I don't have enough time
[16:54:17] <stpeter> right
[16:54:21] <stpeter> but you do have too much to do
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[16:59:47] <MattJ> Undoubtedly :)
[17:00:24] <johnny> yes.. me too..
[17:00:33] <stpeter> but I don't have enough to do :P
[17:01:34] <MattJ> I'm sure we can fix that
[17:02:30] <stpeter> great, thanks!
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[17:11:23] <MattJ> !xep 65
[17:11:25] <xepbot> XEP-0065: SOCKS5 Bytestreams is Standards Track (Draft, 2007-05-21) See: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0065.html
[17:11:42] <MattJ> Draft, good, I have some XEP-0065 comments I need to write up :)
[17:12:22] <stpeter> MattJ: have you looked at the interim version?
[17:12:36] <MattJ> Ah no, there is one? :)
[17:12:49] <stpeter> http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Radar#XEP-0065:_SOCKS5_Bytestreams
[17:13:19] <stpeter> see also http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Radar#XEP-0047:_In-Band_Bytestreams
[17:13:34] <MattJ> Excellent, thanks :)
[17:13:44] <stpeter> see also http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/techreview/2010-May/000118.html
[17:14:25] <stpeter> that final link is the most useful
[17:14:31] <stpeter> tell all your friends
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[17:16:01] <MattJ> /me posts it to Facebook and Twitter
[17:16:09] <stpeter> MattJ: I'm trying to finish up work on the file transfer "stack" so comments on any and all of those specs would be quite helpful
[17:16:15] <stpeter> heh
[17:16:39] <stpeter> I've been efaced from facebook :P
[17:16:45] <stpeter> efaced, linkedout, etc.
[17:16:55] <stpeter> although I'm still on twitter, sort of
[17:17:12] <petermount> I still see you on there occasionally ;-)
[17:17:28] <stpeter> very occasionally
[17:17:39] <stpeter> mostly I post to identica and it gets cross-posted
[17:17:57] <stpeter> once in a long while I log into twhirl and experience twitter directly
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[17:19:04] <petermount> Been trying to get gwibber to work as it supports identi.ca - but it doesn't want to play :-(
[17:22:24] <MattJ> stpeter, "In accordance with the SOCKS5 RFC 1928, the Target MAY have might need to authenticate in order to use the proxy. However, any authentication required is beyond the scope of this document."
[17:22:31] <MattJ> This is one thing I think we ought to change
[17:23:03] <MattJ> I think we should define the SOCKS5 flow more explicitly
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[17:24:12] <MattJ> For example none of the XMPP SOCKS5 proxies that I know of support anything other than the "NO AUTHENTICATION" authentication method
[17:24:31] <MattJ> and this is what all clients use
[17:24:41] <MattJ> however it isn't documented anywhere
[17:24:46] <stpeter> from the typo in that text, I can see that you're not looking at the interim version
[17:24:48] <stpeter> ?
[17:25:02] <stpeter> sure, it would be good to document that
[17:25:03] <MattJ> Which typo?
[17:25:06] <stpeter> and say auth is out of scope
[17:25:18] <stpeter> "the Target MAY have might need to authenticate "
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[17:25:21] <stpeter> where did that come from?
[17:25:33] <stpeter> oh
[17:25:33] <MattJ> Ah, I copied the diff... ignore :)
[17:25:39] <stpeter> yeah
[17:25:40] <stpeter> so I see
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[17:29:00] <MattJ> I don't like the design of SOCKS5 protocol, I've concluded :)
[17:29:42] <MattJ> The same packet can be interpreted in multiple ways depending on the context in which you send it
[17:30:05] <stpeter> /me nods
[17:30:20] <stpeter> I realized that I don't like S5B either :P
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[17:31:03] <MattJ> It's not too bad, if it works - if we document it well, it will :)
[17:33:07] <MattJ> Just that I'm only figuring out how to implement it from reading Gajim's source code isn't good
[17:40:58] <stpeter> nod
[17:42:26] <MattJ> Hmm, and from what I can figure out, even Gajim's code is slightly wrong :)
[17:43:20] <MattJ> Ah no
[17:43:50] <MattJ> They just managed to pack a SOCKS5 client /and/ server into a single source file :)
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[20:30:51] <Kev> MattJ / stpeter: Well, say it whichever way - I have too much to do in the time I have available.
[20:31:15] <MattJ> But we all have the same time available
[20:31:25] <MattJ> It's what we choose to do with it that differs :)
[20:33:01] <stpeter> right, sleep is for the weak :P
[20:33:26] <Kev> I've already been to bed once this evening. My first Monday evening headache in a while.
[20:34:11] <MattJ> I'm weak :)
[20:34:50] <stpeter> I admit that I've cut back on sleep, but not entirely
[20:35:23] <stpeter> /me puzzles over some aspects of draft-ietf-isms-dtls-tm
[20:36:15] <Kev> Reducing sleep interests me.
[20:36:34] <Kev> I don't do well with less than 8 hours these days.
[20:36:42] <stpeter> I usually sleep 6 to 7 hours
[20:36:48] <Kev> I used to manage half that for months at a time.
[20:36:59] <stpeter> Kev: you're getting older, clearly :P
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[20:37:07] <Kev> Sad but true.
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[21:11:23] <MattJ> and so they started talking about insomnia on the radio, yay :)
[21:11:31] <stpeter> heh
[21:11:35] <stpeter> that'll put you to sleep!
[21:11:55] <MattJ> They're discussing the various ways to make yourself fall asleep, and I'm feeling tempted
[21:12:04] <Kev> MattJ: Oh?
[21:12:10] <Kev> I think I need to learn to nap.
[21:12:10] <MattJ> They haven't mentioned developing XEP-0065 clients yet
[21:12:24] <stpeter> heh
[21:12:31] <stpeter> they'll get there
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