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[17:18:06] <evilotto> is it meaningful to send a <presence> directly to a muc, without a resource?
[17:18:42] <Kev> No.
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[17:26:44] <evilotto> that would seem to be a bug in tkabber then...
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[03:36:39] <sunblade> hello
[03:39:12] <sunblade> I read on jabberd.org that I could get real time assistance here
[03:40:09] <sunblade> is anybody around?
[03:58:47] <johnny> ?
[04:01:34] <sunblade> oh hi
[04:01:50] <sunblade> I am new to the world of administering a jabberd server
[04:02:08] <sunblade> I've been reading lots of the docs available but I still have some questions
[04:02:40] <sunblade> I think I just found a relevant piece of documentation so I will come back with questions if I can't figure it out.
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[04:04:41] <johnny> sunblade, most of the time that is specific to a specific server, and they have their own channels
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[04:06:41] <sunblade> but I created this jabberd server on a VPS i manage
[04:06:56] <sunblade> so all I got is the documentation and you guys :)
[04:07:47] <sunblade> anyways, I would like to know how to create an admin user that can see and destroy and rooms that are created OR how to restrict the creation of rooms to certain admin users
[04:08:01] <sunblade> see and destroy *all* rooms
[04:09:36] <sunblade> i followed this: http://jabberd.org/1.4/doc/adminguide#admin-privs
[04:10:06] <sunblade> restart the server, but no luck on seeing or destroying rooms owned by others
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[04:18:36] <johnny> sunblade, you should probably not use jabberd 1.4
[04:18:41] <johnny> it is very old.. and unmaintained
[04:20:09] <johnny> take a look at prosody or ejabberd
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[04:28:05] <sunblade> ok, I suppose I can look into it
[04:28:21] <sunblade> aren't you guys jabberd developers?
[04:36:22] <johnny> no
[04:36:30] <johnny> this room is for folks talking about the protocol itself
[04:36:34] <johnny> mostly anyways..
[04:36:52] <johnny> it is much more general, altho some server developers do help out in here..
[04:38:43] <sunblade> ok, thanks for the recommendations. ejabber looks interesting.
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