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[08:46:29] <zash> http://vk.se/Article.jsp?article=350489
[08:46:32] <zash> My servor! :(
[08:48:44] <petermount> ouch...
[09:07:49] <zash> A ups would be nice
[09:10:36] <petermount> we had something similar a couple of weeks ago. The DC where our main kit was lost power in its networking kit and no ups on it. Our servers stayed up but no one could get at them :-(
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[14:22:28] <Zash> /me is getting mighty annoyed at all the diaspora hype
[14:22:42] <Zash> we needs moar osw hypebots!
[14:22:54] <MattJ> +1
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[14:25:55] <bear> my cynical hunch is that they will spend the money researching what tools to use and hiring lawyers to fend off Facebook's Cease-and-Desist letters
[14:26:21] <bear> and then in the end cobble up something that is basically a CMS with bad messaging
[14:28:22] <Zash> and then spend shitloads on advertising?
[14:29:01] <bear> naa - they will come away with good laptops and training on how to not do a startup
[14:29:08] <bear> so it won't all be a loss ;)
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[14:30:12] <Kev> I have no idea what you're talking about
[14:30:45] <MattJ> Good
[14:31:04] <MattJ> The less people know, the better :)
[14:31:09] <bear> :) and until GSoC is over ....
[14:31:21] <Kev> Fewer :p
[14:31:50] <bear> well, in this case both work: the less info is known about the project and the fewer people who know about the project
[14:31:57] <bear> but yes, fewer
[14:32:09] <MattJ> Kev, less/fewer, both valid here :)
[14:32:10] <Kev> Oh, yes, less could have been right, sorry.
[14:32:35] <MattJ> Oh, bear just said that
[14:32:44] <bear> np - just adding to the "learning"
[14:33:32] <bear> I always try to remember that jdev is a multi-lingual-background room - so I try to keep a lot of my funny-american-english expressions to a minimum
[14:39:43] <Kev> (Shouldn't there be a 'that' in there if it's less?)
[14:40:06] <Kev> Either the less that people know, or the fewer people that know, for that matter.
[14:40:06] <MattJ> Now you're trying too hard ;)
[14:40:23] <bear> hehehe
[14:40:41] <bear> the that is missing - just in different spots
[14:40:52] <bear> "less that" "fewer people that"
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[15:35:52] <draco> does ban feature on jabber.org disabled?
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[15:36:17] <draco> Has been*
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[15:37:32] <dwd> draco, What, banning from rooms?
[15:37:41] <dwd> draco, That should work fine.
[15:38:16] <draco> Weird, i cant ban irritating user in conference room
[15:38:56] <draco> Yes banning for rooms, dwd
[15:39:22] <dwd> draco, How are you banning them? With their bare jid?
[15:39:46] <draco> yes
[15:41:02] <dwd> I don't see any reason why that should fail...
[15:41:31] <draco> Is it because of the client i am using?
[15:41:34] <dwd> Might be worth asking MattJ to look at what jabber.org actually has stored.
[15:41:46] <dwd> draco, Very doubtful - I've not heard of anything like that.
[15:41:51] <draco> I am using mobile client btw,bombus
[15:42:22] <dwd> draco, Unless it's banning the domain, and the user is explicitly a member or something, I don't see why it wouldn't work.
[15:42:54] <draco> I have choose 'ban user' from the user option menu,but then nothing happen,eventhough i have changed my clients
[15:45:25] <dwd> draco, It's possible that Bombus is sending something odd, I suppose. Although what, I don't know.
[15:46:07] <draco> Weird,i've never encountered such problem before
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[15:54:13] <draco> I have changed client with talkonaut,but still not working
[15:54:29] <draco> I dont think its the clients. .
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[15:57:38] <johnny> banning? banning doesn't automatically kick a person
[15:57:44] <johnny> just in case you didn't know.
[15:57:56] <johnny> but you're saying it doesn't show up in the ban list of the channel?
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[15:58:27] <johnny> altho.. that's surely a client side implementation issue
[15:59:10] <draco> The 'banned' user still there in the room,means the banning is not work as it should be
[15:59:17] <johnny> yes it does
[15:59:20] <johnny> banning doesn't kick
[15:59:25] <johnny> not by default anyways
[15:59:48] <johnny> sorry.. there could still be some other issue in which banning doesn't work, but i do know that banning doesn't always imply kick
[16:00:04] <johnny> draco, try kicking the person
[16:00:16] <draco> I can kick the user
[16:00:32] <johnny> do the ban settings stick in the room admin configure?
[16:00:34] <draco> But kicking the user anytime?are you kidding?
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[16:02:58] <waqas> johnny: "The service MUST also remove any banned users who are in the room [...]"
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[16:07:23] <draco> Is there any differences in room setting regarding user banning?
[16:07:36] <johnny> waqas, ah.. a spec thing
[16:07:58] <johnny> draco, well.. i see a list of banned users when i view the room settings
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[16:08:23] <johnny> waqas, i wonder why they did that.. doesn't seem necessary to specify, but ok
[16:08:32] <draco> Lets make it simple,try to ban my jid in here
[16:09:08] <draco> If it succeed then should be no problem
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[16:09:21] <waqas> Works :)
[16:09:45] <dwd> I did think it did...
[16:09:50] <waqas> Unbanned
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[16:10:08] <dwd> I'm just wondering if there's some odd case with affiliation combinations that would cause a failure.
[16:10:16] <johnny> ah
[16:10:34] <draco> It works
[16:11:07] <draco> But why i still cant do that using these clients?
[16:13:23] <dwd> draco, As I said, could be something specific to your room.
[16:15:27] <waqas> draco: Make someone with a desktop client an admin, and get them to try.
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[16:16:07] <waqas> I don't know about bombus, but I wouldn't give talkonaut many points for spec compliance.
[16:16:42] <waqas> It /could/ be some weird M-Link issue of course ^^
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[16:17:16] <draco> How about talkonaut?
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[16:28:26] <draco> I'll try to figure it out
[16:28:39] <draco> Thanks
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