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[11:15:03] <Dobermann> hello
[11:15:21] <Tobias> hi
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[11:17:14] <Dobermann> Who from Rus?
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[11:19:32] <niekie> !ru
[11:19:32] <HAL> Это англоязычная комната. Для общения на русском языке посетите комнату talks@conference.jabber.ru - Всего хорошего!
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[13:01:31] <xZise> Hello all
[13:01:52] <xZise> I got an error message when I'm sending somebody with a gmail account a message
[13:02:03] <xZise> that he can't recieve the message
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[13:05:43] <naw> xZise: he is using the official client?
[13:05:47] <naw> google talk
[13:05:51] <xZise> Nope
[13:05:53] <xZise> Miranda
[13:06:03] <waqas> Has he added you?
[13:06:07] <xZise> don't know if he use the jabber oder gtalk plugin
[13:06:09] <xZise> jep
[13:06:14] <xZise> we chatted before
[13:06:21] <waqas> Can he send you messages?
[13:06:39] <xZise> Hmmm he is offline at the moment
[13:06:46] <naw> but you can send files to other users?
[13:06:47] <xZise> but he could send me messages before
[13:06:59] <waqas> What error are you getting?
[13:07:02] <xZise> not files only text ;)
[13:07:09] <xZise> moment
[13:07:32] <xZise> <error type="cancel" code="503" >
<service-unavailable xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas"/>
[13:08:12] <waqas> That's a generic gtalk error message. Maybe try when he is online :/
[13:08:20] <xZise> Hm okay
[13:08:46] <waqas> Can you view his vCard or does that also give an error?
[13:09:28] <xZise> worked
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[13:10:18] <waqas> One possibility is that he has disabled offline messages.
[13:10:40] <naw> as far I know, the most usual problems is that users try to send files without having their ports open or without configuring
a filetransfer proxy
[13:11:10] <naw> waqas: has gmail ever supported offline messages?
[13:11:22] <Tanguy> It does, but in a strange way.
[13:11:29] <Tanguy> I displays them as email messages.
[13:11:30] <waqas> naw: Yes, that's been my biggest recurring problem since I started using Jabber.
[13:11:57] <waqas> naw: Yeah, saved chat appears as conversations in gmail.
[13:12:15] <Tanguy> Instead of showing them by Jabber the next time the user is connected, it stores them as email messages, that are annoying
for continuing conversations.
[13:12:34] <Tanguy> But at least they are finally shown to the user, this is the most important.
[13:12:44] <naw> it's a pity that most clients doesn't come with preconfigured proxyes, or upnp support to open them, or that there is not
implemented a way to discover if your server has a proxy
[13:13:01] <MattJ> There is :/
[13:13:04] <waqas> Preconfigured proxies are a bad idea.
[13:13:31] <waqas> Several clients come with preconfigured proxies (gajim, pidgin, etc did). Sadly, most of those proxies are offline...
[13:14:23] <waqas> Not to mention the privacy leak that is (these clients try to ping all these proxies when they come online).
[13:14:37] <naw> I just tested and gmail sent me the messages received while I was offline, although not in the original message type=chat
[13:14:58] <xZise> Thats a problem here too :D can't send a file to a gmail user with Trillian
[13:16:40] <naw> waqas: it may be a bad idea, but no support out the box is worse
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[13:38:21] <waqas> naw: It's still no support out of the box, despite the included proxies. :)
[13:38:45] <waqas> Miranda has UPnP support for something. Not sure if it works for jabber file transfers.
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[22:45:18] <Shabeebshb> Hi
[22:45:44] <Shabeebshb> Zzz
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