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[07:56:52] <mazzachre> Is it allowed for a pubsub node to have more than 1 owner? And in that case how to use allowed_roster_groups?
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[08:33:10] <mazzachre> How do others do this?
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[09:01:32] <mazzachre> Anyone alive?
[09:12:59] <Zash> s/alive/awake/
[09:26:54] <mazzachre> Well yes.. one is prerequisite for the other... But the other actually makes more sense :)
[09:28:40] <Zash> :)
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[09:46:31] <Guus> alive & awake, but no pubsub knowledge, sorry
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[09:54:22] <mazzachre> Apparently there is not much going on on the mailing lists either? I subscribed to PubSub because I have some questions and some stuff I would like to add to the std.
[09:55:30] <Alex> mazzachre: pubsub ist a huge XEP. And the most server implementations differ if it comes to teh supported pubsub features
[09:55:47] <Alex> or are you writing your own pubsub component?
[09:55:57] <mazzachre> I am writing my own
[09:56:19] <Alex> ah OK.
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[09:57:04] <mazzachre> So...l most of my questions currently is how others are handling some stuff... Like multiple owners of a node and the allower_roster_groups option :)
[09:57:33] <mazzachre> But I am going to add some non-std. stuff that others might like also, and I thought it could be added to std...
[09:57:57] <mazzachre> Also, going to add the now deffered pubsub queueing but with some extensions to it aswell..
[09:58:46] <mazzachre> And I am writing a "complete" std. test suite to test that all works :)
[09:59:08] <Kev> I know Fritzy's working on a pubsub test suite too - it might be worth chatting to him.
[09:59:35] <mazzachre> Oh :) Ya.
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[10:00:19] <mazzachre> Who is Fritzy?
[10:00:24] <Alex> I see no reason for not having multiple owners
[10:00:26] <Kev> Nathan Fritz.
[10:00:49] <Alex> if the XEP does not prohibit it
[10:01:41] <mazzachre> Alex: No, but.. how to handle allower_roster_groups then? If there are multiple owners with different rosters and roster groups?
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[10:02:35] <Kev> Yes, those two seem to be mutually exclusive.
[10:03:58] <mazzachre> The solution we have setup now is as follows: allowed groups will show what is already set (by other owner) and your roster groups... You can't change the ones already set... only your own...
[10:09:29] <mazzachre> But this also gives problems... Since owner a might want hos "family" to subscribe but mutual owner B does not want HIS family to know what is going on in "weekly-beer-session" node :)
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[10:13:41] <mazzachre> On a different node... I can't seem to find "transient subscriptions" in pubsub... perhaps they have a different name? Subscriptions that are removed when subscriber goes offline
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[10:16:20] <dwd> mazzachre, As far as I'm aware, the roster used for those access models is that of the jid hosting the pubsub service. So for PEP, that's the user. For "general" PubSub, that's "pubsub.jabber.org", or whatever, which typically doesn't have a roster.
[10:16:55] <dwd> mazzachre, Otherwise, different domains need access to read arbitary rosters from each other, which is something that fills me with horror.
[10:17:11] <dwd> mazzachre, At least until I think of Evil Plans™ I could put into effect with that.
[10:17:45] <mazzachre> dwd: Hmmm... you are probably right... But what is the "allowed_roster_groups" then for?
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[10:32:42] <mazzachre> Kev: But I can see useful usecases for multiple owned nodes with roster access...
[10:34:15] <Kev> Oh?
[10:36:02] <mazzachre> Kev: WoW-Guild blog/notifications node owned by the 3 guild-masters and 8 class leaders all of whom have "guildies" class that can subscribe to this :) (I guess it also goes with other arganized groups like that)
[10:36:33] <mazzachre> Or rather... probably guild-master, raid-leaders and class-leaders... But still
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[12:35:04] <mazzachre> What is the reason that my "users" (bots) no longer are able to create MUC rooms as they go (I cleared the config of the server so I might have thrown something out I have forgotten about) what is the config option to make that possible again (simply "joining" a room that is not there should create one with the right access and stuff... It is all fully public rooms since they are used for bots to talk to eachother.
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[19:06:31] <alkino> r mhi all
[19:06:37] <alkino> -r -m
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