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[09:00:21] <Alex> has anybody experience which servers broadcast extended presence information and which not? Some users told me that there
are servers which send it only to online users, and not users which come online after the extended presence info was set.
[09:01:48] <Alex> I know we have PEP and other great technologies for that. But in many closed XMPP environments using presence for it is preferred
because its much easier ;-)
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[11:27:33] <MattJ> Alex, if you just mean extra tags in the <presence>, I believe the spec says the server must send the full stanza to whomever
needs it
[11:28:06] <MattJ> so at least Prosody does this, I would have assumed all the servers did :/
[11:29:06] <Alex> MattJ: ya I mean extra tags in presence. If I would be a server developer I would store the complete stanza, but this seems
not the case for all servers.
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[14:51:14] <eamonn.shaw2@gmail.com> hello world
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[14:51:55] <eamonn.shaw2@gmail.com> Can someone create an account for me on the wiki. I would like to file a membership application for the XSF.
[14:52:05] <eamonn.shaw2@gmail.com> Many thanks!!!
[14:53:43] <MattJ> Hi, PM me your desired username, full name and email address, and I'll create it shortly
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[15:01:33] <eamonn.shaw2@gmail.com> MattJ: Eamonn, Eamonn Shaw, eamonn.shaw2@gmail.com
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[15:07:57] <MattJ> Check your email
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[15:11:07] <eamonn.shaw2@gmail.com> Cheers Matt!
[15:11:23] <MattJ> np
[15:11:32] <MattJ> Good luck with the application :)
[15:15:22] <eamonn.shaw2@gmail.com> Fingers crossed :)
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[19:48:57] <Tobias> does jabber.org have s2s problems currently?
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[19:50:43] <Kev> Not that I know of - although gmail's behaving very strangely, which I've not investigated.
[19:51:43] <Tobias> k..because near to nobody is online in my j.o roster
[19:53:09] <Kev> Can you disco them?
[19:53:17] <bear> my jabber.org jid is active and I have online roster folk
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[20:04:37] <Tobias> Kev: maybe i just know too little people
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[04:56:15] <evilotto> is an xml header (<?xml version="1.0" ?>) required on a s2s stream?
[04:57:06] <waqas> Nope.
[04:59:00] <waqas> The XML declaration is optional in XML documents.
[04:59:56] <waqas> The whole prolog (stuff before first element) is optional.
[05:00:06] <evilotto> I'm trying to debug my s2s code.
<stream:stream xmlns="jabber:server" xmlns:stream="http://etherx.jabber.org/streams" to="jabber.org" from="imdev.diphi.com"
version="1.0">
works fine (against jabber.org). But the same thing -
<stream:stream xmlns="jabber:server" xmlns:stream="http://etherx.jabber.org/streams" to="im.diphi.com" from="imdev.diphi.com"
version="1.0">
(against im.diphi.com) gives me
<stream:error><invalid-namespace xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-streams'/></stream:error>
[05:00:32] <evilotto> it'd be super nice if it told me *which* namespace was invalid, but it doesn't
[05:00:49] <waqas> And adding the XML declaration solves this?
[05:00:54] <evilotto> nope
[05:01:19] <evilotto> if it did, I'd scratch my head, say "huh, that's dumb" and get on with things.
[05:04:16] <evilotto> ah. adding in the dialback namespace (which isn't used yet in my stream) fixes things.
[05:04:25] <evilotto> that's dumb :)
[05:04:26] <waqas> Stupid.
[05:04:36] <evilotto> /me gets on with things
[05:04:41] <waqas> I see it's hosted.im
[05:05:28] <evilotto> yes, which is ejabberd (I believe). And which has been doing annoying things lately (like not sending me complete presence
lists form some mucs)
[05:05:44] <evilotto> gmail did the same thing.
[05:07:48] <waqas> Interesting, the ejabberd on jaim.at doesn't give that error.