Logs for jdev

Show join/part/nick changes:

[05:02:12] * McKael joined the chat.
[05:05:44] * johnny joined the chat.
[05:18:42] * Flo left the chat.
[05:19:44] * john joined the chat.
[05:19:56] * ermine joined the chat.
[05:31:50] * teo joined the chat.
[06:19:04] * mlundblad_laptop joined the chat.
[06:19:17] * Flo joined the chat.
[06:22:28] * Alex joined the chat.
[06:31:56] * teo left the chat.
[06:31:57] * teo joined the chat.
[06:40:21] * nabatt joined the chat.
[06:47:48] * jprieur joined the chat.
[06:58:21] * tkoski joined the chat.
[07:29:23] * Guus joined the chat.
[07:32:06] * Tobias joined the chat.
[07:34:21] * Tobias left the chat.
[07:34:36] * Tobias joined the chat.
[07:34:53] * john left the chat.
[07:36:01] * niekie joined the chat.
[07:36:47] * Kev joined the chat.
[07:41:36] * Zash joined the chat.
[07:42:21] * Tobias left the chat.
[07:43:08] * jprieur left the chat.
[07:48:55] * teo left the chat.
[07:48:56] * teo joined the chat.
[07:49:34] * Tobias joined the chat.
[07:49:45] * luca tagliaferri joined the chat.
[08:06:20] * Nick joined the chat.
[08:13:15] * petermount joined the chat.
[08:15:39] * john joined the chat.
[08:33:37] * Jaif joined the chat.
[08:38:22] * pihhan joined the chat.
[08:39:50] * jprieur joined the chat.
[08:47:53] * jprieur left the chat.
[08:56:48] * dax joined the chat.
[09:00:52] * Treebilou left the chat.
[09:01:03] * Treebilou joined the chat.
[09:20:00] * Tobias left the chat.
[09:45:59] * steve-e joined the chat.
[10:12:07] * steve-e left the chat.
[10:34:25] * pihhan left the chat.
[10:37:38] * dax left the chat.
[10:59:13] * nabatt left the chat.
[11:03:11] * luca tagliaferri left the chat.
[11:07:52] * Tobias joined the chat.
[11:10:06] * Gu1 joined the chat.
[11:10:52] * dax joined the chat.
[11:16:55] * luca tagliaferri joined the chat.
[11:21:02] * nabatt joined the chat.
[11:25:41] * Tobias left the chat.
[11:34:19] * nabatt left the chat.
[11:34:52] * nabatt joined the chat.
[11:41:42] * Tobias joined the chat.
[12:03:13] * Treebilou left the chat.
[12:05:09] * scippio joined the chat.
[12:08:39] * grom joined the chat.
[12:09:11] * grom left the chat.
[12:15:51] * Tobias left the chat.
[12:22:27] * Florob joined the chat.
[12:30:16] * Tobias joined the chat.
[12:34:13] * Nick left the chat.
[12:35:20] * Nick joined the chat.
[12:41:50] * Flo left the chat.
[12:42:02] * Flo joined the chat.
[12:44:33] * steve-e joined the chat.
[12:55:20] * Tobias left the chat.
[13:00:04] * tofu joined the chat.
[13:08:08] * steve-e left the chat.
[13:10:06] * steve-e joined the chat.
[13:13:28] * steve-e left the chat.
[13:13:36] * steve-e joined the chat.
[13:29:32] * Ilya joined the chat.
[13:39:07] * steve-e left the chat.
[13:39:53] * jprieur joined the chat.
[13:39:53] * jprieur left the chat.
[13:45:27] * Beny joined the chat.
[14:00:41] * Alex left the chat.
[14:05:26] * nabatt left the chat.
[14:15:19] * Tobias joined the chat.
[14:16:56] * steve-e joined the chat.
[14:17:19] * deryni joined the chat.
[14:18:13] * Beny left the chat.
[14:29:39] * Flo left the chat.
[14:38:15] * bear joined the chat.
[14:43:42] * scippio left the chat.
[14:50:36] * kkszysiu joined the chat.
[14:51:32] * Flo joined the chat.
[15:17:05] * Florob left the chat.
[15:17:12] * Florob joined the chat.
[15:18:54] * Asterix joined the chat.
[15:24:08] * Guus left the chat.
[15:31:38] * mlundblad_laptop left the chat.
[15:40:43] * steve-e left the chat.
[15:47:19] * jkhii joined the chat.
[16:01:09] * jprieur joined the chat.
[16:01:09] * jprieur left the chat.
[16:07:52] * Asterix left the chat.
[16:12:31] * scippio joined the chat.
[16:13:47] * tkoski left the chat.
[16:13:48] * Asterix joined the chat.
[16:22:29] * teo left the chat.
[16:32:59] * dax left the chat.
[16:38:36] * Tobias left the chat.
[16:38:40] * john left the chat.
[16:54:50] * petermount left the chat.
[17:04:30] * teo joined the chat.
[17:15:47] * darkrain42 left the chat.
[17:16:02] * SteveG joined the chat.
[17:16:10] * darkrain joined the chat.
[17:16:46] * john joined the chat.
[17:18:38] * luca tagliaferri left the chat.
[17:20:31] * Tobias joined the chat.
[17:26:01] * hawke joined the chat.
[17:27:39] * tkoski joined the chat.
[17:29:36] * evilotto joined the chat.
[17:45:51] * teo left the chat.
[17:45:52] * teo joined the chat.
[17:46:32] * jkhii left the chat.
[18:14:36] * Asterix left the chat.
[18:16:58] * xepbot left the chat.
[18:18:58] * xepbot joined the chat.
[18:19:26] * nabatt joined the chat.
[18:20:09] * Asterix joined the chat.
[18:23:55] * grirgz joined the chat.
[18:24:05] * grirgz left the chat.
[18:24:05] * grirgz joined the chat.
[18:24:06] * grirgz left the chat.
[18:25:20] * mlundblad joined the chat.
[18:28:17] * grirgz joined the chat.
[18:40:45] * kkszysiu left the chat.
[18:41:02] * grom joined the chat.
[18:46:38] * Asterix left the chat.
[18:47:19] * bear left the chat.
[18:47:40] * luca tagliaferri joined the chat.
[18:50:59] * bear joined the chat.
[18:51:39] * Asterix joined the chat.
[19:00:54] * Asterix left the chat.
[19:02:12] * Asterix joined the chat.
[19:04:39] * grom left the chat.
[19:04:39] * grom joined the chat.
[19:10:06] * darkrain left the chat.
[19:10:07] * darkrain joined the chat.
[19:15:35] * darkrain left the chat.
[19:15:35] * darkrain joined the chat.
[19:22:51] * alkino joined the chat.
[19:22:56] <alkino> Hi all
[19:23:53] <alkino> It's about GSoC
[19:24:10] <bear> hi
[19:24:22] <bear> what do you need to know (or want to ask)
[19:24:24] <alkino> Do we get more chances if we take a client which is list on the wiki ?
[19:24:49] <bear> it's about the student and the project combined - not about which client it is
[19:25:24] <bear> the projects will be selected/edited based on merit for many things - like if it's doable in a summer, if it helps with code that is needed by community
[19:25:32] <bear> not based on popularity of anything like that
[19:26:18] <bear> so your "chance" is improved if you are motivated to work on the project :)
[19:26:23] <alkino> ok :p
[19:26:48] <bear> it's about getting motivated people working on open source projects - *that* is the primary goal
[19:27:05] <alkino> fine
[19:27:35] <bear> but yea, if you try to do GSoC like most students do Literature homework .... ;)
[19:28:09] <alkino> It's difficult to judge motivation
[19:28:13] <alkino> isn't it ?
[19:28:15] <bear> yep - very
[19:28:44] <bear> that's why once a student starts making noises like they want to apply we will start by engaging them here and also in the project community
[19:29:01] <bear> to find out if they are focused, self motivated, interested - oh, and know how to code :)
[19:29:33] <bear> so the fact your already engaged in the process is a good start
[19:30:29] <alkino> well \o/
[19:30:59] <bear> \m/
[19:35:02] * john left the chat.
[19:36:37] <alkino> So thank you
[19:37:23] * john joined the chat.
[19:37:27] <bear> your very welcome
[19:39:41] <Kev> From another perspective, though...
[19:40:11] <Kev> If you want to work on a client that isn't listed on that page, it means the devs didn't have any interest in GSoC, which means you're unlikely to get a mentor, so a project isn't likely to get accepted.
[19:40:38] <Kev> So it largely depends on what you want to do.
[19:40:43] <Kev> Chat to us about it :)
[19:42:06] <alkino> I discuss with the maintainer of the projet
[19:42:15] <alkino> and he's agree and have some discuss with Mattj
[19:42:44] <bear> getting them to update the project page would be very helpful :)
[19:42:50] * vasyok joined the chat.
[19:42:50] * vasyok left the chat.
[19:42:50] * vasyok joined the chat.
[19:42:50] * vasyok left the chat.
[19:43:37] <alkino> ok bear
[19:43:55] <Kev> alkino: which project?
[19:44:05] <alkino> MCabber
[19:44:09] <alkino> but I must leave :s
[19:44:10] * serty joined the chat.
[19:44:10] <alkino> sorry
[19:44:15] <alkino> my school is going to close
[19:44:16] <bear> np - chat wiht ou later
[19:44:55] * alkino left the chat.
[19:46:20] * vasyok joined the chat.
[19:46:20] * vasyok left the chat.
[19:46:50] <serty> I've some question about roster groups
[19:47:11] <bear> evil they are .... evil!
[19:47:13] <serty> you can have the same roster item in multiple groups
[19:47:26] <darkrain> Yes.
[19:47:29] <Kev> Roster groups are really more like tags for roster items.
[19:47:38] <Kev> Well, that's literally what they are, in the protocol.
[19:47:42] <serty> but is it also possible to have a roster item in one or more groups AND the "none" group
[19:47:56] <Kev> There is no "none" group.
[19:48:06] <serty> yes
[19:48:12] <serty> I mean,
[19:48:56] <serty> I want to know if it is possible to list a roster item both in the root roster tree and in one or more roster groups
[19:49:13] <Kev> Right, but I'm saying - there is no root roster tree.
[19:49:22] <Kev> Roster items have zero or more group tags.
[19:49:22] <deryni> You cannot both list an entry in a group and in no groups.
[19:49:38] <serty> online - user@example.org - group -user@example.org
[19:49:43] * valexey joined the chat.
[19:49:43] <Kev> So if it has no tags, it has no tags, if it has some tags, it has some tags.
[19:49:50] <serty> so something like the above
[19:50:00] <darkrain> !xmpp-im
[19:50:01] <xepbot> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xmpp-3921bis
[19:50:05] <serty> Kev: indeed
[19:50:14] <Kev> That's not what's really happening, though, that's just how your client happens to be translating it to the ui
[19:50:46] <Kev> what's really happening is user1@example.org | groups= user2@example.org | groups=friends user3@example.org | groups=friends,coworkers
[19:50:47] <serty> but is the scenario I describe possible?
[19:51:01] <serty> or is this a gap in the protocol?
[19:51:05] <Kev> It's neither.
[19:51:11] <deryni> It isn't possible and it isn't a gap.
[19:51:20] * vasyok joined the chat.
[19:51:20] * vasyok left the chat.
[19:51:38] <Kev> It doesn't make any sense - you're asking if you can have a contact simultaneously be in no groups, and be in some groups - that should clearly be impossible.
[19:51:39] <serty> Kev: how, then should the described scenario be implemented in a client?
[19:51:59] <deryni> What scenario?
[19:52:02] <Kev> Indeed.
[19:52:25] <serty> deryni: to have a roster item both in groups and in o groups
[19:52:34] <deryni> It can't be done.
[19:52:50] <Kev> It can't be done, and I've no idea why you'd want it to be done, it doesn't make any sense.
[19:52:54] <deryni> As should be plainly clear given the meaning of "in a group" and "in no groups".
[19:53:01] <serty> Kev: why would it make no sense?
[19:53:13] <deryni> The UI display is fine.
[19:53:15] <Kev> serty: because you can't be both in a group and in no groups.
[19:53:17] <serty> from a user interface point if view it does make sense...
[19:53:28] <Kev> There's nothing stopping a client translating the roster however it wants to.
[19:53:43] <deryni> A UI is free to consider any single group as "no groups" or all groups as "no groups" but that doesn't change the fact that the protocol isn't presenting that.
[19:53:44] <Kev> If you want to write a client that shows every roster item both in the root of the tree, and in a group hierachy, that's fine.
[19:54:06] <Kev> Or, if you want a group to have special meaning to your client, that's fine too.
[19:54:15] <Kev> Some clients use a group called 'Hidden' to not show things to the user.
[19:54:51] <serty> maybe a XEP should be written to define such advanced groups?
[19:55:07] <deryni> XEPs don't cover purely client behaviour.
[19:55:35] <Kev> deryni: well, actually, I think there /is/ merit in better specifying what happens with roster metadata.
[19:55:48] <Kev> An informational XEP for that is on my ever-increasing TODO.
[19:55:50] <serty> the XEP can define the required behavior for special groups
[19:56:07] <deryni> Kev: In what sense does that apply here?
[19:56:20] * vasyok joined the chat.
[19:56:21] * vasyok left the chat.
[19:56:27] <deryni> How a client considers a group with a specific name isn't something I think should be in any XEP.
[19:56:32] <Kev> deryni: well, you might have your group with a namespaced note saying "Hi, I'm special"
[19:56:47] <Kev> Well - for precisely that reason, to avoid having to hard-code a name.
[19:56:48] <deryni> Allowing for metadata to be attached and persisted is fine.
[19:57:03] <deryni> But that's not purely client behavious.
[19:57:13] <Kev> It's not, indeed.
[19:57:51] <Kev> serty: if you see a hole in the protocol for something, you're welcome (and anyone is welcome) to write up a protoXEP, and submit it to the XEP Editor to submit to the XMPP Council to vote on moving to the standards track.
[19:58:09] <serty> deryni: if the groups are standardized in a XEP, the user can switch to another client without the need to rename her special groups
[19:58:11] * nabatt left the chat.
[19:58:14] <Kev> I'll admit that as you explain things now, I can't see a clear need for such a protocol, but you're welcome to try.
[19:58:39] <deryni> serty: Yes, but that's not what XEPs cover.
[19:58:54] <deryni> At least in general.
[19:59:09] <darkrain> Interestingly, the bis draft (that I could see) doesn't actually specify what should happen with <group/> or <group></group>
[19:59:15] <serty> /me thinks the "/me" tag is in a XEP.... :-)
[19:59:17] <Kev> deryni: there is a precedent - roster group hierachies are defined in a XEP with special naming.
[19:59:27] <deryni> I hate the nested group XEP. =)
[19:59:31] <deryni> For various reasons.
[19:59:34] <Kev> Yes, it's an abomination.
[19:59:49] <deryni> I'm all for a metadata XEP with a registry of common values.
[19:59:58] <deryni> But not a "special group name" codifying XEP.
[20:00:08] <Kev> *nod*
[20:00:18] <Kev> I can assure you that Council would block a "special group name" XEP.
[20:00:29] <Kev> The current Council, in any case.
[20:01:21] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:01:21] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:01:27] <serty> btw, is this room still logged?
[20:01:41] <serty> I want to bookmark this discussion...
[20:01:58] <serty> but the last log seems to be from January
[20:02:00] <Kev> Not at the moment, no.
[20:02:04] <Kev> Well, yes, it's log.
[20:02:08] <Kev> But they're not online at the moment.
[20:02:41] <serty> will they be indexed by Google so that I can find it back? :-)
[20:02:47] * niekie left the chat.
[20:02:59] * niekie joined the chat.
[20:03:02] * deryni left the chat.
[20:03:06] <Kev> Probably.
[20:03:15] <Kev> Once the logs are back online.
[20:06:01] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:06:01] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:06:22] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:06:22] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:06:44] <Kev> serty: if you can write up your use cases for this, you could submit them to the standards list, and see if the discussion leads to something better than hard-coding group names. Roster metadata seems like the right way to go for this.
[20:07:55] * tkoski left the chat.
[20:08:12] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:08:12] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:09:21] <serty> well, in the upcoming Coccinella release you can drag and drop contacts
[20:09:40] <serty> if you do, a menu with copy, move and cancel appears
[20:10:15] <serty> if you drag and drop a contact to the root, you can select the move option
[20:10:44] <serty> but if you select copy, nothing happens
[20:11:20] <serty> users who want a contact both in the root and in a group will think this is a bug in Coccinella
[20:11:22] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:11:23] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:11:32] <Kev> Which, of course, it is :)
[20:11:51] <serty> why? :p
[20:12:02] <Kev> Because it shouldn't allow you to copy the item.
[20:12:05] <serty> it looks to be a protocol bug :p
[20:12:52] <Kev> The problem here is that Coccinella has chosen to represent ungrouped users in an unusual way - most clients use a pseudo-group like 'General' or 'Buddies' for this.
[20:13:15] <Kev> (And I agree that using roste annotations to specify such a group as default would be good)
[20:13:58] <serty> Coccinella has an online and an offline root
[20:14:08] <darkrain> I think the pseudo-groups end up being bad-ish hacks, personally
[20:14:20] <serty> you can move a contact to this to remove the groups
[20:14:22] <Kev> darkrain: see my comment about roster annotations :)
[20:14:38] <Tobias> there's also nested roster groups :)
[20:14:47] <darkrain> Kev: Ah, right.
[20:14:49] <Kev> Tobias: we've already discussed that abomination.
[20:14:50] <serty> Kev: is that a XEP?
[20:15:03] <Tobias> Kev: sorry...i didn'T read all the backlog :)
[20:15:42] <serty> are you talking about XEP-0145?
[20:15:51] <Kev> serty: roster metadata? No. In theory it shouldn't need a XEP, but most servers don't allow extensibility in the roster, so I think an Informational XEP needs to be written.
[20:16:22] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:16:23] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:17:27] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:17:27] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:21:15] * klk left the chat.
[20:21:16] * aggelos left the chat.
[20:21:22] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:21:23] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:22:10] * klk joined the chat.
[20:22:10] * klk left the chat.
[20:22:20] * klk joined the chat.
[20:22:20] * klk left the chat.
[20:22:20] * klk joined the chat.
[20:22:20] * klk left the chat.
[20:23:29] * alkino joined the chat.
[20:26:23] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:26:23] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:27:05] * klk joined the chat.
[20:27:05] * klk left the chat.
[20:31:23] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:31:23] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:31:49] * tkoski joined the chat.
[20:32:05] * klk joined the chat.
[20:32:06] * klk left the chat.
[20:35:20] * jcea joined the chat.
[20:36:23] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:36:23] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:37:06] * klk joined the chat.
[20:37:06] * klk left the chat.
[20:37:54] * Tobias left the chat.
[20:38:07] * ermine left the chat.
[20:39:24] * xepbot left the chat.
[20:41:23] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:41:23] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:41:25] * xepbot joined the chat.
[20:42:06] * klk joined the chat.
[20:42:07] * klk left the chat.
[20:46:24] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:46:24] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:47:07] * klk joined the chat.
[20:47:07] * klk left the chat.
[20:48:33] * Guus joined the chat.
[20:49:08] * Beny joined the chat.
[20:51:24] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:51:25] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:52:07] * klk joined the chat.
[20:52:07] * klk left the chat.
[20:54:00] * serty left the chat.
[20:54:40] * evilotto left the chat.
[20:54:44] * evilotto joined the chat.
[20:56:25] * vasyok joined the chat.
[20:56:26] * vasyok left the chat.
[20:57:07] * klk joined the chat.
[20:57:07] * klk left the chat.
[20:59:46] * john left the chat.
[21:01:26] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:01:26] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:02:00] * Tobias joined the chat.
[21:02:08] * klk joined the chat.
[21:02:08] * klk left the chat.
[21:06:26] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:06:26] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:07:08] * klk joined the chat.
[21:07:08] * klk left the chat.
[21:11:26] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:11:26] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:12:09] * klk joined the chat.
[21:12:09] * klk left the chat.
[21:16:26] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:16:27] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:17:09] * klk joined the chat.
[21:17:09] * klk left the chat.
[21:17:45] * klk joined the chat.
[21:17:45] * klk left the chat.
[21:17:45] * klk joined the chat.
[21:17:45] * klk left the chat.
[21:19:20] * Guus left the chat.
[21:21:04] * tkoski left the chat.
[21:21:27] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:21:27] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:22:10] * klk joined the chat.
[21:22:10] * klk left the chat.
[21:26:27] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:26:27] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:27:10] * klk joined the chat.
[21:27:11] * klk left the chat.
[21:27:27] * McKael left the chat.
[21:28:01] * McKael joined the chat.
[21:31:27] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:31:27] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:32:11] * klk joined the chat.
[21:32:11] * klk left the chat.
[21:35:18] * pihhan joined the chat.
[21:36:27] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:36:27] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:37:12] * klk joined the chat.
[21:37:12] * klk left the chat.
[21:41:28] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:41:28] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:42:12] * klk joined the chat.
[21:42:12] * klk left the chat.
[21:46:29] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:46:29] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:47:12] * klk joined the chat.
[21:47:12] * klk left the chat.
[21:51:29] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:51:29] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:52:12] * klk joined the chat.
[21:52:12] * klk left the chat.
[21:56:30] * vasyok joined the chat.
[21:56:30] * vasyok left the chat.
[21:57:12] * klk joined the chat.
[21:57:13] * klk left the chat.
[21:57:20] * valexey left the chat.
[22:01:30] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:01:30] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:02:13] * klk joined the chat.
[22:02:13] * klk left the chat.
[22:03:12] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:03:43] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:03:43] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:04:12] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:04:12] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:06:31] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:06:31] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:07:14] * klk joined the chat.
[22:07:14] * klk left the chat.
[22:09:12] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:09:12] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:11:32] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:11:32] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:12:14] * klk joined the chat.
[22:12:14] * klk left the chat.
[22:12:18] * Beny left the chat.
[22:14:12] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:14:12] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:16:32] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:16:32] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:17:15] * klk joined the chat.
[22:17:15] * klk left the chat.
[22:17:27] * pihhan left the chat.
[22:19:12] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:19:12] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:21:33] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:21:33] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:22:16] * klk joined the chat.
[22:22:16] * klk left the chat.
[22:24:12] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:24:12] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:26:33] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:26:33] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:27:16] * klk joined the chat.
[22:27:16] * klk left the chat.
[22:29:12] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:29:13] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:31:33] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:31:34] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:32:17] * klk joined the chat.
[22:32:17] * klk left the chat.
[22:34:13] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:34:13] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:36:08] * bobbber joined the chat.
[22:36:34] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:36:34] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:37:17] * klk joined the chat.
[22:37:17] * klk left the chat.
[22:37:20] * bobbber left the chat.
[22:39:14] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:39:14] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:41:34] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:41:34] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:42:18] * klk joined the chat.
[22:42:18] * klk left the chat.
[22:44:14] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:44:14] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:46:24] * Flo left the chat.
[22:46:26] * Flo joined the chat.
[22:46:35] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:46:35] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:47:19] * klk joined the chat.
[22:47:19] * klk left the chat.
[22:49:14] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:49:14] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:51:35] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:51:35] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:52:20] * klk joined the chat.
[22:52:20] * klk left the chat.
[22:54:14] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:54:14] * grirgz left the chat.
[22:55:47] * Tobias left the chat.
[22:56:36] * vasyok joined the chat.
[22:56:36] * vasyok left the chat.
[22:57:21] * klk joined the chat.
[22:57:21] * klk left the chat.
[22:59:15] * grirgz joined the chat.
[22:59:15] * grirgz left the chat.
[23:01:37] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:01:37] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:02:22] * klk joined the chat.
[23:02:22] * klk left the chat.
[23:04:15] * grirgz joined the chat.
[23:04:15] * grirgz left the chat.
[23:06:32] * alkino left the chat.
[23:06:37] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:06:37] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:07:22] * klk joined the chat.
[23:07:22] * klk left the chat.
[23:09:15] * grirgz joined the chat.
[23:09:16] * grirgz left the chat.
[23:11:37] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:11:37] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:12:22] * klk joined the chat.
[23:12:22] * klk left the chat.
[23:14:15] * grirgz joined the chat.
[23:14:15] * grirgz left the chat.
[23:16:38] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:16:38] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:17:22] * klk joined the chat.
[23:17:22] * klk left the chat.
[23:19:16] * grirgz joined the chat.
[23:19:16] * grirgz left the chat.
[23:20:19] * Zash left the chat.
[23:21:04] * Zash joined the chat.
[23:21:38] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:21:38] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:22:23] * klk joined the chat.
[23:22:23] * klk left the chat.
[23:24:16] * grirgz joined the chat.
[23:24:17] * grirgz left the chat.
[23:24:54] * Zash left the chat.
[23:26:39] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:26:39] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:27:22] * klk joined the chat.
[23:27:22] * klk left the chat.
[23:29:17] * grirgz joined the chat.
[23:29:17] * grirgz left the chat.
[23:31:39] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:31:39] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:32:23] * klk joined the chat.
[23:32:23] * klk left the chat.
[23:34:17] * grirgz joined the chat.
[23:34:17] * grirgz left the chat.
[23:36:39] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:36:40] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:37:24] * klk joined the chat.
[23:37:24] * klk left the chat.
[23:41:40] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:41:40] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:42:25] * klk joined the chat.
[23:42:25] * klk left the chat.
[23:46:40] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:46:41] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:47:26] * klk joined the chat.
[23:47:26] * klk left the chat.
[23:51:41] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:51:41] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:52:00] * hawke left the chat.
[23:52:27] * klk joined the chat.
[23:52:27] * klk left the chat.
[23:52:35] * hawke joined the chat.
[23:56:41] * vasyok joined the chat.
[23:56:41] * vasyok left the chat.
[23:57:28] * klk joined the chat.
[23:57:28] * klk left the chat.
[00:01:41] * vasyok joined the chat.
[00:01:41] * vasyok left the chat.
[00:02:28] * klk joined the chat.
[00:02:29] * klk left the chat.
[00:06:42] * vasyok joined the chat.
[00:06:42] * vasyok left the chat.
[00:07:29] * klk joined the chat.
[00:07:29] * klk left the chat.
[00:10:21] * jcea left the chat.
[00:11:42] * vasyok joined the chat.
[00:11:42] * vasyok left the chat.
[00:12:30] * klk joined the chat.
[00:12:30] * klk left the chat.
[00:16:42] * vasyok joined the chat.
[00:16:42] * vasyok left the chat.
[00:17:31] * klk joined the chat.
[00:17:31] * klk left the chat.
[00:21:43] * vasyok joined the chat.
[00:21:43] * vasyok left the chat.
[00:22:32] * klk joined the chat.
[00:22:32] * klk left the chat.
[00:26:31] * luca tagliaferri left the chat.
[00:26:43] * vasyok joined the chat.
[00:27:32] * klk joined the chat.
[00:27:32] * klk left the chat.
[00:32:25] * klk joined the chat.
[00:32:26] * klk left the chat.
[00:32:26] * klk joined the chat.
[00:32:26] * klk left the chat.
[00:32:32] * klk joined the chat.
[00:32:32] * klk left the chat.
[00:33:07] * klk joined the chat.
[00:33:08] * klk left the chat.
[00:37:33] * klk joined the chat.
[00:37:33] * klk left the chat.
[00:39:18] * waqas joined the chat.
[00:42:34] * klk joined the chat.
[00:42:34] * klk left the chat.
[00:47:35] * klk joined the chat.
[00:47:35] * klk left the chat.
[00:52:35] * klk joined the chat.
[00:52:35] * klk left the chat.
[00:57:36] * klk joined the chat.
[00:57:36] * klk left the chat.
[01:02:36] * klk joined the chat.
[01:02:37] * klk left the chat.
[01:06:33] * hawke left the chat.
[01:07:37] * klk joined the chat.
[01:07:37] * klk left the chat.
[01:12:37] * klk joined the chat.
[01:12:38] * klk left the chat.
[01:17:38] * klk joined the chat.
[01:17:38] * klk left the chat.
[01:22:39] * klk joined the chat.
[01:22:39] * klk left the chat.
[01:27:39] * klk joined the chat.
[01:27:39] * klk left the chat.
[01:32:40] * klk joined the chat.
[01:32:40] * klk left the chat.
[01:37:41] * klk joined the chat.
[01:37:41] * klk left the chat.
[01:42:41] * klk joined the chat.
[01:42:41] * klk left the chat.
[01:47:41] * klk joined the chat.
[01:47:41] * klk left the chat.
[01:52:42] * klk joined the chat.
[01:52:42] * klk left the chat.
[01:57:43] * klk joined the chat.
[01:57:43] * klk left the chat.
[02:02:43] * klk joined the chat.
[02:02:44] * klk left the chat.
[02:07:44] * klk joined the chat.
[02:07:44] * klk left the chat.
[02:12:44] * klk joined the chat.
[02:12:44] * klk left the chat.
[02:17:45] * klk joined the chat.
[02:17:45] * klk left the chat.
[02:21:57] * Florob left the chat.
[02:22:45] * klk joined the chat.
[02:55:13] * evilotto left the chat.
[02:57:04] * spendleton joined the chat.
[03:00:18] * psi joined the chat.
[03:00:32] <psi> hmm
[03:01:22] * spendleton left the chat.
[03:05:01] * android joined the chat.
[03:06:18] <psi> yes
[03:06:36] * android left the chat.
[03:08:14] * android joined the chat.
[03:08:41] * android left the chat.
[03:10:28] * android joined the chat.
[03:12:30] * android left the chat.
[03:12:42] * android joined the chat.
[03:15:27] * android left the chat.
[03:23:42] * android joined the chat.
[03:24:31] * android left the chat.
[03:25:41] * android joined the chat.
[03:25:52] * android left the chat.
[03:26:01] * android joined the chat.
[03:26:18] * android left the chat.
[03:27:20] * android joined the chat.
[03:29:07] * android left the chat.
[03:32:02] * android joined the chat.
[03:34:48] * android left the chat.
[03:36:41] * memuc joined the chat.
[03:37:11] <memuc> yes there is
[03:37:24] <psi> is what?
[03:37:54] * memuc left the chat.
[04:07:11] * darkrain left the chat.
[04:07:13] * darkrain joined the chat.
[04:08:07] * psi left the chat.
[04:21:28] * jkhii joined the chat.
[04:49:59] * waqas left the chat.