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[08:52:09] <edrin> hi
[08:52:25] <edrin> is it correct that there is a new certificate when connecting to jabber.org
[08:52:30] <Kev> No.
[08:52:40] <Kev> It is, I believe, the old certificate, which is the problem.
[08:52:45] <Kev> It expired.
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[09:01:49] <jonas> speaking of certificates, the startcom usually used these days for servers, the CA cert, is it included in any modern web
browsers?
[09:02:10] <johnny> yes
[09:02:13] <johnny> that's why we use it..
[09:02:32] <johnny> even though their interface is terrible, and the options are nowhere near as good as cacert
[09:02:39] <johnny> since cacert is not included in anybrowser
[09:06:00] <jonas> cool
[09:08:00] <jonas> wonder why opera warns about it then
[09:08:17] <Kev> If it's warning about jabber.org, it'll be because the cert expired.
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[09:09:30] <jonas> warns about my own web server (which's cert hasnt expired)
[09:10:15] <jonas> doesnt warn in firefox though. could be me that messed up something when adding certificates magic while requesting the certificates
and what not from startcom
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[09:13:32] <edrin> what do you think of the US air force censoring the New York Times?
[09:13:43] <edrin> isn't this funny?
[09:14:26] <edrin> why not just mail pdf prints of the censored pages to some soilders :) ?
[09:14:47] <jonas> what did they censor?
[09:17:57] <edrin> to my understanding of the news all people working for the US air force must not visit/view/read web pages or newspapers that
contain information about the wikileaks stuff
[09:18:28] <edrin> i.e. they must not visit the guardian or the new york times web pages...
[09:18:55] <edrin> because then they would read stuff that is officially a secret...
[09:18:59] <edrin> funny ;)
[09:19:40] <jonas> ah yes, heard things about that
[09:21:11] <jonas> they must not click Like otherwise no future jobs also I read. dont know how true it is though
[09:24:24] <edrin> it's funny
[09:24:39] <edrin> so if you are at some university
[09:26:35] <edrin> you could print some wikileaks info on a huge poster, walk through the campus: students that accidentally see the poster would
immediately block their eyes and run away... like vampires noticing sun light.
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[12:26:21] <draco> Does anyone know why now in jabber.org server, an admin can add another jid as admin too?i mean normally only owner can take
any jid as admin,right?
[12:28:45] <draco> Anyone?
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[12:30:11] <dwd> draco, Ah. Because I misread the spec, so an admin can change up to and including their own level, like an owner.
[12:31:19] <draco> Yes,but can't modify the jid anymore after i added it
[12:32:45] <draco> After i added the jid as admin,then i tried to remove it,it can not
[12:36:00] <dwd> Oh, yes. So maybe I didn't misread the spec, maybe that's just a rather weird bug.
[12:36:29] <draco> That seems abnormal,isn't it?
[12:37:05] <dwd> It's not ideal, no.
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[12:37:52] <draco> dwd, Hope you can fix it
[12:38:25] <dwd> draco, Yes, it's pretty easy to fix, but there'll be a logistic-related delay in getting it onto jabber.org.
[12:39:40] <draco> As long as it could be fix,that would be fine
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