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[07:24:28] <brrock007> hi...
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[08:20:32] <ankur.huria6> Hello
[08:21:45] <ankur.huria6> ;-)
[08:22:34] <ankur.huria6> Where do you live
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[08:35:59] <Jish.pr> Hi
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[14:26:30] <coward32987> hi all
[14:26:57] <naw> hello
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[14:27:42] <coward32987> i am new here
[14:28:04] <coward32987> is jabber jsut like the irc?
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[14:29:57] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> any body there?
[14:30:01] <naw> yes
[14:30:09] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> is jabber jsut like the irc?
[14:30:13] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> sorry!
[14:30:26] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> how can i use jabber
[14:30:30] <naw> no, it has rooms, but it's more than irc
[14:30:32] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> web talk
[14:30:47] <naw> it's a instant messaging system
[14:30:59] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> i should jion a room first?
[14:31:12] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> how can i talk with others?
[14:31:19] <naw> like msn messenger, you can add contacts, talk with them...
[14:31:34] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> with client?
[14:31:46] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> where can i download?
[14:31:47] <naw> well, if you want to add someone as a contact you have to know his/her JabberID
[14:31:54] <naw> something like user@server
[14:32:11] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> what is server?
[14:32:24] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> not jabber?
[14:32:35] <naw> there are lots of clients, if you also use other systems like msn or aim you may be interested in a multiprotocol client like pidgin, adium, trillian.....
[14:33:16] <naw> the server is where you have your account
[14:33:21] <naw> the provider
[14:33:45] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> is there other server ?
[14:33:51] <Kev_> Thousands.
[14:33:54] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> like what?
[14:34:00] <naw> jabber, unlike other systems, is descentralised, that means that there are multiple servers and they talk between each other
[14:34:20] <naw> so someone in jabber.org can talk with someone in jabberes.org or in gmail.com
[14:34:30] <Kev_> http://www.jabberes.org/servers/ for example.
[14:34:55] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> thanks
[14:35:04] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> how can i choose my server?>
[14:35:30] <Kev_> You can just stick with jabber.org.
[14:36:09] <Mati> vren.yue\40jabber.org, or you can find a different server at http://www.jabberes.org/servers/
[14:38:11] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> they all service worldwide,i mean that.should choose my country's server
[14:38:35] <Kev_> There's no reason to choose a server in your country. They can all talk to each other.
[14:39:28] <Mati> vren.yue\40jabber.org, they all talk to each other
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[14:39:56] <Mati> vren.yue\40jabber.org, you can choose a server close to you if you prefer, you can also choose a server that has services you require (like webpresence, a webchat, transports, ...)
[14:40:30] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> do you use client?
[14:40:35] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> like what?
[14:40:50] <Mati> vren.yue\40jabber.org, I use gajim, which is available for linux and windows
[14:43:10] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> installing
[14:44:00] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> is everyone's domain name is jabber.org?like vren.yue@jabber.org?
[14:44:19] <Kev_> Only if you're using the jabber.org server.
[14:45:01] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> liek this vren.yue@jabber.org am i using the jabber.org?
[14:45:07] <Kev_> Yes.
[14:46:01] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> does my account need to be changed if i change my server?
[14:46:23] <Kev_> You don't change server per se, your account is on jabber.org
[14:46:35] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> roger that
[14:46:41] <Kev_> If you change server, you need to start a new account.
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[14:48:06] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> what's that mean?if i change the server to 0nl1ne.at then my account changed vren.yue@0nl1ne.at?
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[14:48:28] <Kev_> You would need a new account on 0nl1ne.at, yes.
[14:49:27] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> dizzy
[14:50:20] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> does this server connect with the jabber.org?
[14:50:23] <Mati> vren.yue\40jabber.org, if you want a .at account, note that jabber.at is online too ;-)
[14:50:39] <Mati> vren.yue\40jabber.org, yes, *all* servers connect with all other servers, just like with email!
[14:51:05] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> Email
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[14:53:45] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> can i use my account to sent a mail?
[14:53:54] <Kev_> No.
[14:53:54] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> vren.yue@jabber.org
[14:54:00] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> why?
[14:54:18] <Kev_> Why would you be able to?
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[14:55:04] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> is it a server ?can't work just like the mail server?
[14:55:32] <Kev_> There is a mail server on jabber.org, but we don't give out accounts on it.
[14:55:56] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> uderstood
[14:56:45] <Mati> vren.yue\40jabber.org, its of course technically possible to have the same email as jabber-id, but these are two different protocols. I don't know any jabber-server that also hands out email-addresses.
[14:56:45] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> i just have instlled the gajim ,then i it let me to choose the server!
[14:56:56] <Kev_> Mati: gmail does.
[14:57:04] <Mati> Kev_, of course, gmail
[14:57:17] <Mati> ... but I wouldn't recommend gmail to anyone, thanks to their s2s issues
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[15:00:39] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> i just register on the web jabber.org?
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[15:00:57] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> can i use my gmail?
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[15:04:05] <Kev_> Your gmail account is an XMPP account, yes.
[15:04:15] <Kev_> Although as Mati says, they do tend to have issues talking to other servers.
[15:06:02] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> i don't need to register the account vren.yue@jabber.org?yes?
[15:06:13] <Kev_> You have already registered it.
[15:06:23] <Kev_> You're using it now.
[15:06:52] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> i just need to login with by gmail
[15:07:30] <Kev_> If you want to use your gmail account for XMPP, just give your XMPP client your account details.
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[15:09:07] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> then it have any diffrent with the gtalk?
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[15:09:31] <Kev_> Google Talk is the XMPP system using your GMail account.
[15:11:17] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> i just login with my gmail,then it shows me the contact of my gtalk
[15:12:28] <Kev_> That's correct.
[15:12:31] <Kev_> Those are all XMPP contacts.
[15:15:02] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> what about the hotmail.com?
[15:15:32] <Kev_> No.
[15:15:41] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> no server?
[15:16:20] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> yeah,it does not show me my msn contact!
[15:18:50] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> which should i use vren.yue@jabber.org or my gmail?
[15:18:58] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> thanks a lot
[15:19:33] <Kev_> jabber.org is the better XMPP server, but whichever is convenient for you.
[15:20:05] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> you mean the my contacts?
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[15:22:09] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> thank you very much!all of you!
[15:22:33] <vren.yue\40jabber.org> bye bye
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[15:24:36] <Duuuark> "what about hotmail.com?"; only users of the following provider have an e-mailadress and a jabber account: - web.de/gmx/1&1 (products of the german company United Internet) - Freenet (another german provider) and GMail
[15:25:27] <Kev_> Duuuark: Oh, no, I have several addresses that act as both XMPP and mail addresses, they're just not public registration.
[15:26:43] <Mati> Kev_, thats a really usefull answer to anyone who asks
[15:27:22] <Kev_> Mati: That's why when asked "What about hotmail.com?", I just said no.
[15:27:35] <Kev_> But since what Duuuark said is untrue, it bears clarification.
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[15:38:11] <Duuuark> Kev_, but the list i´ve posted are public servers, so everybody can register an account ;)
[15:38:17] <Duuuark> - but
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[15:38:51] <Kev_> Yes, indeed.
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[19:20:58] <naw> does jabber.org support bosh?
[19:23:26] <MattJ> Not yet
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[19:28:38] <naw> I was looking a server to check if gajim was doing bosh properly or if was ejabberd who was failing
[19:30:56] <MattJ> Gajim works with Prosody, I know that much :)
[19:31:20] <naw> prosody.im doesn't have bosh enabled
[19:32:00] <MattJ> It does - we use it for http://prosody.im/chat
[19:32:04] <MattJ> http://prosody.im/bosh
[19:32:16] <naw> oh, you don't use 5280........
[19:32:41] <MattJ> Try 22 - you'd think we don't run ssh? :)
[19:32:54] <naw> btw, the correct usage of xep-0156 to see alternate connection types should be "dig _xmppconnect.prosody.im txt +short" correct?
[19:33:06] <MattJ> I run multiple Prosody instances on the same machine, they all have different ports so I can keep track of them
[19:33:35] <MattJ> I'd put the parameters in reverse order, but perhaps that works too
[19:33:41] <MattJ> dig +short txt ...
[19:33:46] <MattJ> But I haven't tried
[19:34:01] <MattJ> I don't have DNS set up for that either though - no-one uses prosody.im for c2s
[19:34:08] <MattJ> Well, except me
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[20:37:19] <alekseevvlad> привет
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