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[04:32:29] <tyler59490> hi
[04:32:43] <tyler59490> how are u friends
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[04:37:05] <ford34805> a
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[09:35:09] <Holger> Moin moin.
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[09:39:29] <mesuutt> hi
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[10:11:51] <czhan> hello
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[11:40:10] <Testoo> small statistically question: how often was the server restarted due to a malfunction in the last months (no real data, more something like once per day, once per week, twice per month, ...)
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[12:20:21] <Kev> Jabber.org's restarted roughly once a week these days.
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[12:20:41] <Testoo> ok, thanks
[12:23:56] <Kev> Why do you ask?
[12:27:08] <Testoo> a gf had problems with jabber.org (missing messages, gone offline without any visible reasons, ...) and i just wanted to estimate if the problem is more on her or jabber.org's side
[12:27:51] <Kev> Looking at my graph, we've had one restart in the last week.
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[16:04:25] <HedgeMage> /me peeks in
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[16:09:19] <niekie> Hey HedgeMage :)
[16:09:47] <HedgeMage> What's up, niekie ?
[16:10:03] <niekie> Not much. Playing with a new camera I have. Taking some interesting pictures.
[16:10:23] <niekie> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/bCU6YG9YQ1SMOxd-n4WRiA?feat=directlink
[16:13:13] <HedgeMage> neat :)
[16:13:17] <HedgeMage> What kind of camera
[16:13:18] <HedgeMage> ?
[16:16:28] <niekie> Sony a500 DSLR
[16:16:52] <niekie> Manual focus, of course ;)
[16:24:04] <HedgeMage> How is it working for you?
[16:24:39] <HedgeMage> I've always been a Nikon person, my cousin is a fan of Canon, we have debates over it...I don't know anything about Sony's cameras.
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[16:32:45] <niekie> It's working great :)
[16:33:40] <HedgeMage> :)
[16:33:41] <niekie> That's actually a VoIP phone on the right of my sink (toothbrush on the left :P)
[16:33:49] <niekie> (not in focus)
[16:34:13] <HedgeMage> The TSA broke my SLR when I moved back to the midwest, and I haven't had the money to replace it. I do have a nice point-and-shoot though.
[16:34:27] <niekie> Oh wow.
[16:34:30] <niekie> How did they break it? :(
[16:35:02] <niekie> And, umm.. aren't they supposed to replace it then if they broke it?
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[16:52:18] <obama14139> I've created a Jabber account from Jabber.org. I'm using the Jabber account in my iChat software, but it is not connecting to other Jabber users. It's still waiting for authorization from the other use, and the other user as accepted my iChat. What am I doing wrong?
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[16:53:51] <tim.salwei> I've created a Jabber account from Jabber.org <http://Jabber.org>. I'm using the Jabber account in my iChat software, but it is not connecting to other Jabber users I'm trying to chat with. It's still waiting for authorization from the other users, but the other user as accepted my iChat. What am I doing wrong?
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[17:02:55] <MattJ> Nothing that I can see, you should see each other
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[17:16:38] <HedgeMage> tim.salwei, What server and client do the other Jabber users you try to talk to use?
[17:16:54] <HedgeMage> tim.salwei, There are some that are known to behave in odd, non-standard ways.
[17:17:12] <tim.salwei> they are using ichat. The server is a work sponsored server.
[17:18:15] <tim.salwei> ichat.periscope.com <http://ichat.periscope.com>
[17:19:15] <MattJ> jabberd2, should work
[17:19:26] <Kev> ichat.periscope.com doesn't seem to exist
[17:19:36] <Kev> Either using SRV records or A.
[17:19:59] <tim.salwei> is jabberd2 a server?
[17:20:05] <Kev> If that server isn't on the Internet, jabber.org's not going to be able to connect to it.
[17:20:12] <Kev> Ah, no.
[17:20:15] <Kev> I simply can't spell :)
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[17:21:12] <HedgeMage> lol
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[17:21:25] <Kev> SRV doesn't exist, but the A fallback does.
[17:22:15] <Kev> Nov 30 17:20:42 hermes xmppd[7398]: N-MBOX-Notice sending error for receiving s2s connection to domain ichat.periscope.com [207.250.74.18] (unsupported-stanza-type)
[17:22:44] <tim.salwei> if I have a jabber.org <http://jabber.org> account, what server should I be using on my end? Currently, I'm using server: jabber.org <http://jabber.org>
[17:22:50] <tim.salwei> port: 5222
[17:23:03] <tim.salwei> Is this the correct port?
[17:23:15] <Kev> tim.salwei: for your client to connect to? Yes.
[17:23:31] <tim.salwei> yes
[17:24:21] <HedgeMage> tim.salwei, what Kev showed you is that your work's server may not be allowing s2s connections (connections from outside servers)
[17:24:34] <Kev> HedgeMage: Well, that it's allowing connections.
[17:24:42] <Kev> But that it then sends something illegal that makes jabber.org close the stream.
[17:24:55] <HedgeMage> Kev, thanks...I misread that :)
[17:25:47] <tim.salwei> So people that I'm trying to connect with, the work server they are using may not allow outside chats? Correct?
[17:26:09] <HedgeMage> tim.salwei, It seems to be *trying* to allow them, but failing miserably :/
[17:26:36] <MattJ> Well it works for me
[17:26:48] <MattJ> not that I've tried subscribing to anyone there
[17:27:11] <HedgeMage> tim.salwei, have an account there one of us can try to subscribe to and see what happens?
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[17:27:41] <tim.salwei> kkudla@ichat.periscope.com <mailto:kkudla@ichat.periscope.com>
[17:28:01] <HedgeMage> tim.salwei, Also, feel free to try subscribing to me: hedgemage@jabber.binaryredneck.net -- I think you'll find that works fine since your work server seems to be at fault.
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[17:28:36] <Kev> It's sending stanzas over the s2s in the jabber:client namespace.
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[17:28:40] <Kev> So that's why it's not working.
[17:29:12] <Kev> tim.salwei: It looks like a bug in whatever software is running ichat.periscope.com
[17:29:12] <tim.salwei> to the novice, what does that mean?
[17:30:01] <tim.salwei> Does that mean the ichat.periscope.com <http://ichat.periscope.com> will not allow outside chats?
[17:30:24] <Kev> It will, but depending on whether the other servers check for illegal protocol or not, it won't work with some servers.
[17:30:40] <MattJ> Ah, my server purposefully allows that :)
[17:30:50] <Kev> The best thing to do is to ask whoever admins that server to upgrade it - I think all server software that was broken in this way has since been fixed.
[17:31:25] <tim.salwei> OK. Thanks for everyone's help. Great service from jabber.org <http://jabber.org>.
[17:31:42] <Kev> MattJ: <identity name='Jabber IM server' type='im' category='server'/> - what does your manual fingerprinting say that is? :)
[17:33:01] <MattJ> Kev, it replies to iq:version as jabberd2
[17:33:09] <MattJ> which makes sense, given that it's ichat.*
[17:33:19] <MattJ> Apple have an "iChat server" package based on jabberd2
[17:33:26] <MattJ> a kind of fork
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[23:25:44] <me> does anyone knows how to connect openfire with MatriX, i had previously agsXMPP
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