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[08:10:53] <haja> ;)
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[14:43:50] <hachaso> hi
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[15:43:58] <loxs> folks, what's the right way to go if I want to have a bot to administer all my muc rooms? How will it know when rooms get created, so that it can enter them?
[15:45:04] <petermount> tricy, I did that by having the bot run muc itself, but thats probably a bit extreme
[15:45:15] <Zash> loxs: You could hack in some hook that notifies the bot
[15:46:00] <loxs> Zash: you mean as an internal server module?
[15:46:33] <Zash> loxs: Yes, or a hacked muc module
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[15:49:30] <MattJ> 5 line Prosody plugin for Prosody's internal MUC module I think :)
[15:50:00] <Zash> MattJ: Something like that, yes :)
[15:50:58] <Zash> Sending out an invite would work, if the bot supports it (like riddim does now)
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[15:55:27] <Zash> .
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[16:04:03] <Kev> You could put a hook in the server to prepopulate bookmarks :)
[16:04:24] <Kev> I quite like the idea of servers prepopulating bookmarks.
[16:07:15] <Zash> Kev: +1
[16:08:48] <Zash> MattJ: Btw, I wrote a riddim plugin that makes it autojoin bookmarks:)
[16:08:59] <MattJ> Yay!
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[16:09:18] <Kev> Should I upgrade my Riddim installs one of these days?
[16:09:27] <MattJ> Zash has been doing plenty with is
[16:09:29] <MattJ> *it
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[16:16:16] <Kev> Does it reconnect after a failure yet?
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[16:17:26] <MattJ> Not yet :)
[16:17:45] <MattJ> Then again, neither does HAL
[16:17:49] <MattJ> bash loops FTW
[16:17:55] <Zash> :D
[16:18:07] <Kev> The problem with Riddim is that it doesn't exit after a failure.
[16:18:17] <Kev> This negates the utility of my bash loop somewhat.
[16:18:23] <MattJ> Ah, good point :)
[16:18:26] <MattJ> HAL just crashes
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[17:19:50] <hachaso> anyone in the room ??
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[17:20:07] <Alex> ya
[17:20:53] <hachaso> do you have any good knowledge about XMPP ?
[17:21:05] <hachaso> I need some help understanding some stuff
[17:21:31] <Alex> hachaso: yes I think so
[17:22:29] <hachaso> I'm trying to write a small XMPP client that sends the xml stanzas to the jabber.org server
[17:23:02] <hachaso> I manage to communicate with the server but encounter problems when it asks my to Auth the user
[17:23:15] <hachaso> I can't manage to send the Auth in a correct way..
[17:23:35] <hachaso> do you know if I have to encrypt some part of the authentification before sending it to the server ??
[17:23:40] <Alex> 1) please don't jabber.org for testing code
[17:24:03] <Alex> 2) why are you not using an existing library which handles all this stuff for you?
[17:24:32] <hachaso> because I would like to learn..understand how it works
[17:24:49] <hachaso> how the communication part works..
[17:24:57] <Alex> you must authenticate with SASL
[17:25:15] <hachaso> isn't it the same procedure if I communicate with another XMPP server?
[17:25:22] <hachaso> standard procedure ?
[17:25:34] <Alex> the easiest SASL mechanism is SASL plain, which is just b64(username + char(0) + password)
[17:26:04] <will.thompson@collabora.co.uk> Hello, good people. Any chance of an account on wiki.xmpp.org?
[17:26:10] <hachaso> b64 is that something you can find in any programming language ?
[17:26:24] <Alex> in general yes, but there are many sals mechanisms, and different server may offer you different mechanisms
[17:26:48] <Alex> will.thompson@collabora.co.uk: yes, I need you mail address and prefereed nickname
[17:27:11] <darkrain_> Alex: b64(char(0) + username + char(0)+ password)
[17:27:12] <Alex> hachaso: b64 = base64
[17:27:48] <Alex> darkrain: you are right, but servers accept both ;-)
[17:27:54] <darkrain_> They shouldn't.
[17:27:57] <darkrain_> :(
[17:28:14] <will.thompson@collabora.co.uk> Alex: 'wjt'. assuming it's possible to change the email address after the fact, will.thompson@collabora.co.uk (since I'm mostly involved on work time ATM)
[17:28:31] <hachaso> Thanks a lot Alex
[17:28:52] <Alex> will.thompson@collabora.co.uk: mediawiki is a mess, I don't know if you can change email addresses
[17:29:35] <will.thompson@collabora.co.uk> is that seriously my nickname in this room? sigh. where did my alias go.
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[17:30:46] <wjt> Alex: well. let's go with that one anyway. :)
[17:31:02] <Alex> /me logs in to the Wiki
[17:32:42] <Alex> wjt: The password for "Wjt" has been sent to will.thompson@collabora.co.uk.
[17:34:14] <wjt> ace, thanks.
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[17:34:36] <Alex> hachaso: some servers accept SASL PLAIN only on secure connections, so you need to establish TLS before auth then, or choose a higher SASL mechanism like SCRAM or DIGEST-MD5
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[17:38:11] <hachaso> Alex: one small question
[17:38:24] <hachaso> char(0) is that a character ending ?
[17:38:33] <hachaso> how is that done on python ?
[17:39:14] <Alex> nullchar
[17:40:33] <Alex> in python '\0' ??
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[17:56:01] <louiz’> no, \0 does not end a python string
[17:56:06] <louiz’> if that's what you meant
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[18:02:30] <hachaso> char(0) equivalent in python ?
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[18:07:01] <wjt> >>> '\0' + "hello" + '\0' + "world" '\x00hello\x00world'
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