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[02:01:39] <cleveland34317> hi
[02:02:06] <cleveland34317> how are bu girls
[02:02:17] <cleveland34317> sorry guys
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[02:22:32] <LuciferBlack> hello, have a question. using jabber on miranda, trying to change my info (name, 2 name. birthday) but info doesn't upload. what shell i do, and how can I change the info?
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[03:10:28] <Bozhinsky> Hi ppl!
[03:14:21] <Bozhinsky> Need help. I just cancelled my "ownership" of a conference (I am a member now of a conference wich was created by me), so, how can I return back my "ownership" now? Thank You.
[03:19:48] <Bozhinsky> BRB.
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[03:27:13] <Htetthu.so1993> Hi
[03:28:00] <Bozhinsky> And one more question, guys. Lookmat this: [03:00:00] >
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[03:31:42] <Bozhinsky> This is a "message", received by me (in this conference, not in private), after I entered it now. It's some kind of "empty message", maybe a server message? Please explain, what does it mean.
[03:34:13] <Bozhinsky> After all, I got a new contact "not in list" - jabber@conference.jabber.org...
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[03:44:31] <test> test
[03:44:47] <test> m
[03:45:10] <Bozhinsky> test: passed?! :)
[03:47:17] <test> yea great
[03:47:32] <test> this does not support private chat?
[03:48:34] <Bozhinsky> test: excuse me?
[03:51:01] <test> i mean in this silverlight muc testing not support private chat?
[03:52:17] <test> lol, i think i am testing in a wrong conference room , sorry . :D
[03:53:53] <Bozhinsky> test: You are! :)
[04:07:10] <Bozhinsky> Guys, any ideas about "missed ownership"?
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[04:11:38] <Bozhinsky> OK, I'll be back later, for the answers. Bye guys.
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[04:40:22] <quix@jabber.org> Hello
[04:40:34] <quix@jabber.org> How do I create a room?
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[08:04:06] <harding18813> hi
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[08:04:25] <waqas> Hello
[08:04:43] <BlackWolf> i'm completly new to jabber, anyone here who can answer a few questions?
[08:04:59] <waqas> Ask away
[08:05:34] <BlackWolf> i really like jabber (multi-login, really cool) but anyone can write messages to me without my authorization and vice versa. is this a client problem or a jabber problem?
[08:06:00] <BlackWolf> additionally, I can see other peoples online status before the authorized me, which is kinda weird
[08:07:04] <waqas> Your server's admin can configure that. And your client can ask the server to block messages not from you (assuming the server you are using has support for it).
[08:07:17] <waqas> Wait, you can see their status?
[08:07:23] <waqas> That shouldn't happen.
[08:07:41] <BlackWolf> maybe their client auto-authorized me, but I don't think it did
[08:07:59] <BlackWolf> and I'm using jabber.org as a server, but couldn't find any privacy config anywhere
[08:09:34] <BlackWolf> my client (using adium on OS X) has an option to "Only allow contacts in my contact list", which works for ICQ, but doesn't seem to work for jabber
[08:10:18] <waqas> Jabber.org doesn't support the feature at the moment. Most servers do though.
[08:10:24] <BlackWolf> :-(
[08:10:36] <BlackWolf> any chance it will soon? this is really important to me because of spam concerns
[08:10:45] <waqas> Messages between non-contacts are generally allowed by default, while presence is not.
[08:11:35] <BlackWolf> any good servers that support this?
[08:11:37] <waqas> Spam.. why is spam a concern if I may ask? I allow messages from remote contacts. Heck my jabber address is publically published in multiple places. I have yet to recieve a spam message.
[08:12:11] <darkrain> /me helpfully chimes in with a "same here"
[08:13:42] <BlackWolf> I'm currently making the shift from ICQ, where spam is really bad and it feel really naked without a good authorization system I have to admit :D
[08:13:59] <Kev> BlackWolf: The new release of the software that jabber.org runs is going into preview this week, and includes blocking.
[08:14:09] <BlackWolf> cool
[08:14:26] <Kev> I imagine it'll be earlyish next year that it's deployed on jabber.org
[08:14:48] <BlackWolf> sounds good, will stick with jabber.org then
[08:15:19] <BlackWolf> thanks for the help guys
[08:15:42] <waqas> You can always run your own server software if you have a domain name handy
[08:15:57] <BlackWolf> I would just be really annoyed if, maybe in a few years, spam became worse on the jabber network and I had an account somewhere where I can't block it
[08:16:27] <waqas> There's work being done to prevent that before it ever happens.
[08:16:42] <BlackWolf> sounds good, I'll just enjoy jabber then
[08:18:05] <BlackWolf> well, I have to get going again, thanks for the quick help here, you really helped me out with my concerns!
[08:19:20] <BlackWolf> see ya
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[13:34:58] <Jeff~> hello boysandgirls
[13:39:54] <MattJ> Hi Jeff~
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[13:40:40] <Bozhinsky> Hi, people!
[13:41:12] <Jeff~> how's it going matt
[13:41:43] <MattJ> All's well thanks, you?
[13:43:10] <Bozhinsky> People, please tell me, how to return status "conference owner"?
[13:43:40] <Kev> Bozhinsky: Do you mean you're writing a MUC component?
[13:44:25] <Jeff~> great i'm just BORED
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[13:45:07] <Bozhinsky> Kev: no. I just created a conference (was an owner) and then changed my status to "member". Now I want my "owner status" back.
[13:45:28] <Kev> Heh that was silly :)
[13:45:32] <Kev> Which room?
[13:45:43] <Bozhinsky> Kev: yep! :)
[13:45:50] <Bozhinsky> cyberpunk
[13:47:09] <Kev> cyberpunk@conference.jabber.org ?
[13:47:21] <Bozhinsky> Kev: yes
[13:47:22] <Jeff~> cyberpunk, there's a term i haven't heard in a while
[13:47:31] <MattJ> Jeff~, do something then :)
[13:47:40] <Bozhinsky> Jeff~: :)
[13:47:45] <Kev> Bozhinsky: There you go, I destroyed the room.
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[13:47:49] <Kev> You should be able to recreate it now.
[13:48:07] <Kev> I suggest you leave yourself as an owner this time :)
[13:48:14] <Bozhinsky> Kev: Thank You!
[13:48:19] <Kev> np
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[13:50:17] <Bozhinsky> People, why I got this conference (jabber@conference.jabber.org) in my roster in group "Not in list"? I didn't add it by myself, it just appeared after I entered to conference?
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[13:56:44] <Jeff~> MattJ, you use gajim?
[13:56:49] <MattJ> I do
[13:56:52] <Jeff~> ah yes you do
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[13:57:24] <Jeff~> it needs an autoresize option for the contact list
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[13:57:41] <MattJ> I use single-window mode
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[13:58:08] <Jeff~> i've never tried that
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[13:58:59] <Jeff~> eww i do not like it.
[13:59:38] <Jeff~> detached roster w/ single chat :)
[13:59:52] <MattJ> :)
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[14:03:17] <Bozhinsky> Now, I am going to send this message - to see if "jabber@conference.jabber.org" will add itself to my roster...
[14:05:08] <Bozhinsky> Strange.....but it didn't....this time. But what was it in other times? People, who can help me to understand it?
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[14:09:41] <Bozhinsky> OK, guys, I am leaving now, but one more time: thank You for jabber.org and for the help - I got my Conference back! :) Bye-bye.
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[19:46:07] <waqas> .
[19:46:59] <stpeter> ..
[19:47:19] <stpeter> /me points waqas to the XMPP WG list regarding stanza rescoping... :)
[19:47:39] <waqas> Looking :)
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[20:02:16] <cheney45055> I'm trying to get iChat on a Mac working... I set up my Jabber account but it will not connect. Any links on what else I need to do?
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[20:04:29] <stpeter> hmm
[20:04:45] <stpeter> cheney45055: are you perhaps behind a firewall?
[20:05:06] <stpeter> can you connect with a client other than iChat (e.g., Adium or Psi or Swift)?
[20:05:29] <stpeter> brb
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