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[00:00:48] <jotape> zanchin: how long is that timeout?
[00:00:55] <jotape> 1 second?
[00:01:22] <zanchin> sure, 1 sec should do it
[00:03:56] <jotape> its working
[00:03:59] <jotape> but
[00:04:48] <jotape> no but
[00:04:54] <jotape> its working!! :)
[00:07:21] <jotape> zanchin: thanks
[00:08:48] <zanchin> np!
[00:09:15] <zanchin> think of it as leaving the room first, and then disconnecting from strophe
[00:09:58] <jotape> yes
[00:10:10] <jotape> make sense
[00:15:01] <jotape> so, now i need to search how to discover if a user is or not an admin
[00:15:27] <zanchin> admin on the server or in the muc room?
[00:16:42] <zanchin> in the case of the latter, you can look at the affiliation that you get back from the room
[00:17:59] <jotape> on the server
[00:20:32] <zanchin> How server-wide admins are handled are implementation specific.
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[00:22:45] <jotape> at prosody
[00:24:32] <zanchin> yes, i mean there is no protocol for that. Unless you are talking about admins within the context of the MUC room; that you can get.
[00:28:42] <jotape> hmm maybe i can use this option
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[00:31:36] <zanchin> this will help then: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#enter-pres
[00:36:40] <jotape> ok tks
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[01:40:37] <jotape> see you guys
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[07:30:27] <simonyau> Hi,all,i am in!
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[11:52:09] <Kunaldagale288> Anybody want to chat with me
[11:53:17] <Kunaldagale288> Hi
[11:54:11] <Kunaldagale288> Hi
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[12:56:20] <simonyau> hi
[12:56:30] <simonyau> what you wanna talk about?
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[16:27:38] <dddddd> hi
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[16:35:08] <jotape> hello
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[18:45:50] <purple-mika> hello
[18:46:16] <purple-mika> me is me
[18:47:09] <purple-mika> :-D
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[18:57:55] <purple-mika> hellooooooooooo
[19:02:52] <purple-mika> hhhhhhhheeeeeeeeellllllllllllooooooooo
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[19:14:57] <purple-mika> hello
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[20:46:49] <dcrodjer> hi, we have implemented a whiteboard with xmpp on pidgin..... info about our work: http://www.rohanjain.in/blog/whiteboarding-with-xmpp-google-talk/#updates but this implementation does not completely follows any accepted xep. We have tried to refer the following xeps: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sxe.html http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0228.html http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/whiteboard2.html but none of these are recommended, so how can we implement this without conflicting with the xmpp standards.
[20:48:21] <dcrodjer> *but none
[20:48:59] <waqas> dcrodjer: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0284.html - I don't like it much, but that's an experimental XEP
[20:49:57] <waqas> And other clients with whiteboarding support possibly use it.
[20:50:00] <dcrodjer> what about the proposed whiteboard one?
[20:50:18] <dcrodjer> k
[20:50:44] <waqas> Which proposed one? whiteboard2.html?
[20:50:51] <dcrodjer> hmm
[20:51:33] <waqas> That seems to be old, from 2001, not recently updated. And I don't recognize any of the authors.
[20:53:01] <dcrodjer> hmm, it is pretty old..
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[20:53:43] <waqas> Gajim recently got whiteboard support. I think they use xep-0248 (but I'm not sure). Ask in their room.
[20:54:01] <waqas> You'll want to use the same protocol, to interoperate.
[20:54:41] <dcrodjer> hmm...yeah thats what i am confused about
[20:55:24] <dcrodjer> what to follow so that our implementation works between various clients
[20:56:21] <BlackMan> ب
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[20:57:47] <dcrodjer> so in future if any protocols are defined for whiteboarding, will they be close to the xep-0284?
[20:58:18] <waqas> I suspect so. You can also post about your work and your questions on the jdev mailing list.
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[20:59:44] <dcrodjer> k
[21:00:41] <dcrodjer> well thanks for the info...will post this on the list too.
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[21:10:16] <waqas> dcrodjer: The Gajim room says they use SXE (xep-0284) with SVG.
[21:11:52] <naw> coccinella has whiteboard, but I'm not sure what xep does they use
[21:12:34] <waqas> Probably the same
[21:12:54] <waqas> Not sure if they use it with SVG though
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[21:15:50] <grant57475> hi, anyone knows about transports ?
[21:16:31] <waqas> Yes?
[21:16:48] <grant57475> Do you know how secure are them ?
[21:16:50] <Kev> AFAIK, coccinella uses something non-XEPpish.
[21:16:58] <grant57475> ( thanks for the answer btw :D )
[21:17:20] <Kev> grant57475: You have to give them your password for the other service, and they have to store those passwords.
[21:17:34] <Kev> So you can decide from that. It'd scare the hell out of me.
[21:17:50] <Kev> (I run my own transports for this reason)
[21:18:44] <grant57475> I see, any link with info about transports and how to run them ?
[21:19:10] <Kev> Unless you run your own XMPP server, you're unlikely to be able to. Do you?
[21:19:37] <grant57475> Noup, I'm using the google one
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[21:22:23] <grant57475> Well, thanks a lot for the answer ^^
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[21:23:32] <Kev> So yes, you won't be able to run your own transports sensibly.
[21:24:45] <grant57475> Well, apart from giving the necessary credentials, does the transport have acces to conversations ?
[21:25:00] <grant57475> (Yup, I'm completely ignorant atm about the protocol :( )
[21:25:02] <Kev> Yes, any conversation you have with the other network goes through the transport.
[21:25:26] <Kev> And also through your server.
[21:27:57] <grant57475> Well, thanks for the answer ^^ | bye :3
[21:28:35] <Kev> Bye.
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