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[00:45:30] <petrybr> Hello, is this possible at prosody: Create groups of user, so when i send a message to this groups, all users receive my message?
[00:46:45] <MattJ> Hmm, not currently - there's mod_announce, but that sends to all online users
[00:46:59] <MattJ> Do you use mod_groups at the moment?
[00:53:10] <petrybr> Actually i dont use nothing.. im searching for solutions
[00:53:25] <petrybr> maybe mod_announce solve my problem
[00:54:04] <MattJ> Well if nothing does, it's quite an easy plugin to make - let me know and I'll code something up for you
[00:55:55] <petrybr> no no, i think mod_announce is exactly what i need :)
[00:56:11] <MattJ> Great :)
[00:56:39] <petrybr> and can i block users to add other users to their roster?
[00:57:03] <MattJ> Hmm
[00:57:06] <petrybr> I just want to create a private server, where some users (admins) will send messages to all online users ( mod_announce ;-) )
[00:57:18] <MattJ> A fixed number of users?
[00:57:21] <petrybr> i dont want to users send messages
[00:57:34] <petrybr> neithers add other users to their roster
[00:57:51] <petrybr> yes
[00:59:06] <MattJ> A number of ways, depending on which is most practical for you
[00:59:32] <MattJ> without code changes, you can remove write permissions on the roster files (/var/lib/prosody/* on most systems)
[00:59:59] <MattJ> with code changes you can just comment out the code that handles adding contacts, and they'll just get an error when they try
[01:00:15] <petrybr> ok
[01:01:03] <MattJ> in plugins/mod_roster.lua you'll find a line:
[01:01:06] <MattJ> else -- stanza.attr.type == "set"
[01:01:18] <MattJ> change it to "elseif false then"
[01:01:27] <MattJ> or remove that branch entirely
[01:01:50] <MattJ> Actually that wouldn't return an error
[01:02:10] <MattJ> Instead of that, just insert a new line after the else:
[01:02:14] <MattJ> do return; end
[01:02:30] <MattJ> this'll abort the function if they try to modify their roster, and Prosody will return an error
[01:04:15] <petrybr> ok
[01:04:32] <petrybr> and about blocking the users to send messages? is there any solution?
[01:05:06] <MattJ> You can disable mod_message in the config file
[01:05:13] <MattJ> However this would stop admins sending messages too
[01:05:27] <petrybr> so mod+announce will not work..
[01:05:31] <MattJ> But if the admins are all on one host, and the users on another, just disable it for the one host
[01:05:32] <petrybr> mod_announce
[01:09:03] <petrybr> can admin.example.org be a
[01:09:19] <petrybr> So, i can create two hosts: admin.example.org and users.example.org
[01:09:33] <petrybr> and disable mod_message to users.example.org
[01:10:11] <MattJ> Exactly
[01:10:18] <petrybr> So when admin1@admin.example.org send a announce, everybody (*@admin.example.org and *@users.example.org) will receive the message
[01:10:55] <MattJ> No, you can announce to a single host
[01:11:18] <MattJ> (you literally send a message to "users.example.org/announce/online")
[01:11:28] <petrybr> yes
[01:13:39] <petrybr> but the online users.example.org users will receive the message, either whith the mod_message disabled ?
[01:13:44] <petrybr> just to confirm..
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[01:16:31] <MattJ> I'm just confirming :)
[01:18:42] <petrybr> oh, ok :)
[01:18:51] <MattJ> mod_announce is written differently to how I imagined, but it can be made to work in the absence of mod_message
[01:19:40] <MattJ> the alternative, depending on how soon you need it, is to await a mod_firewall plugin I'm working on
[01:19:48] <MattJ> which would allow all this without code changes
[01:21:13] <petrybr> so, today doesnt work?
[01:21:55] <MattJ> mod_firewall isn't ready yet
[01:22:31] <petrybr> i was thinking here: i only can send message to buddies on my roster list right? if i not allow users to change their rosters list (stay them empty) they will not send messages
[01:22:45] <MattJ> No, you can send to others too
[01:22:51] <petrybr> hmm
[01:22:58] <petrybr> :(
[01:23:16] <MattJ> Well I guess the easiest way is a small plugin to just block messages
[01:23:40] <MattJ> if they aren't from an admin :)
[01:23:44] <petrybr> it already exists?
[01:23:57] <MattJ> No, but it's about 10 lines to write...
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[01:27:49] <petrybr> thats is not so easy for some guys.. like me
[01:28:07] <petrybr> do you have any idea when mod_firewall will be released?
[01:28:39] <MattJ> Ok, 11
[01:28:51] <MattJ> http://conference.prosody.im:5280/pastebin/3239acef-ae9e-478d-8a0b-af2a19461505
[01:29:12] <MattJ> Just drop into your plugins folder as mod_block_message.lua
[01:29:17] <MattJ> and add block_message in the config
[01:30:02] <petrybr> wow!!
[01:30:09] <MattJ> You're welcome :)
[01:30:13] <petrybr> thanks :-)
[01:30:34] <petrybr> where are you from ?
[01:30:43] <MattJ> I'm in the UK
[01:31:37] <petrybr> cool
[01:31:49] <petrybr> you have done a great job whith prosody, congrats!
[01:31:55] <MattJ> Thanks :)
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[01:40:59] <petrybr> did you receive my PM matt?
[01:41:48] <MattJ> Hmm, no - PMs are disabled in this room
[01:42:02] <MattJ> You can reach me at me@matthewwild.co.uk anyhow :)
[01:49:29] <petrybr> just to know.. i dont found anything on the site about helping $ the project... as im not a good programmer (yet ;-) )
[01:49:56] <MattJ> Ah yes, you're not the first to ask :)
[01:50:08] <MattJ> I'm working on a new site, which includes such a feature, at last :)
[01:51:26] <petrybr> Ok :)
[01:51:43] <petrybr> 12am here, im going to sleep... later i tell you if this solution worked!
[01:51:47] <petrybr> thanks
[01:51:50] <petrybr> see ya!
[01:51:54] <MattJ> You're welcome, see you :)
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[02:55:47] <darkrain> Hmm, prosody-module while you wait
[02:55:51] <darkrain> There's a future in this service!
[02:57:11] <MattJ> :)
[02:57:20] <MattJ> Just don't request a pizza-ordering one
[02:57:27] <MattJ> because I can't eat pizza
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[08:19:24] <张大鑫> Hi.
[08:20:29] <张大鑫> Is it a permanent group or a temporary one?
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[10:07:00] <kf> A permanent group , it is !
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[10:43:00] <bush56089> Hey!
[10:43:07] <bush56089> How's goin?
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[14:04:27] <jotape> Hello, is there any windows client that i can configure plugins? what i want: read a file, parse it, and send a message to a specific contact on my buddy list
[14:07:09] <naw> some clients have plugin support, but I don't know none that does that
[14:10:23] <jotape> and do you suggest any specific client to do that?
[14:10:59] <naw> no, I don't have experience with that
[14:11:44] <naw> but if you plan to send that message in an automatic way, maybe you will be more interested on using a bot
[14:12:42] <naw> I think that jabbm had plugin support.......
[14:12:46] <naw> *jabbim
[14:16:32] <jotape> no no
[14:16:48] <jotape> i need to run this at client side..
[14:16:56] <jotape> i will have 10 people using it
[14:17:04] <jotape> they use a tool that generates a log
[14:17:20] <jotape> i want that something read that log and when specific messages appears automatic send messages
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[14:47:41] <hrotko.gabor> Hi list! Is there a way to connect to jabber.org on port 80 or 443?
[14:48:09] <Kev> Only if you set up your own port forwards.
[14:49:22] <hrotko.gabor> so if I am in company, and other ports blocked, it is impossible
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[15:11:52] <naw> hrotko.gabor: I think that meebo had something to avoid blocked ports, but it needed to use your home computer as proxy or something like that
[15:12:17] <naw> there was also a server called jabber80 that allowed connections to the 80 port
[15:15:06] <hrotko.gabor> do I need a new account on jabber80? I tried to login with my jabber.org account, but I couldn't
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[15:16:16] <Tobias> you'd need an account there, and resubscribe all your users
[15:16:32] <Tobias> and yes, that's an increadibly ugly solution to the problem
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[15:17:59] <hrotko.gabor> any chance to have jabber.org 80/443 to allow client connection?
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[17:31:03] <HellMaster_HaiL> test
[17:34:46] <HellMaster_HaiL> who used MatriX XMPP SDK?
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[19:06:01] <Link Mauve> There is a problem with svn.xmpp.org:7938, it isn’t available.
[19:07:11] <Kev> We moved to Git some time ago.
[19:07:23] <Kev> http://gitorious.org/xmpp
[19:07:33] <Link Mauve> Ok, thanks.
[19:07:46] <Link Mauve> This page should be updated: http://xmpp.org/resources/schemas/xsf-source-control/
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[21:06:57] <Lastwebpage> why I can't setup a status for one muc on jabber.org?
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[21:57:49] <naw> Lastwebpage: you mean to have status message in the room different from the one that is seen by your contacts?
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[22:07:23] <Lastwebpage> yes
[22:08:03] <MattJ> I don't see why you couldn't
[22:10:40] <Lastwebpage> if I try it on jabber.org it not work, I get only:
[22:10:41] <Lastwebpage> <error code="400" type="modify"> <jid-malformed xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-stanzas" /> </error>
[22:11:16] <Lastwebpage> on another server it works
[22:13:29] <MattJ> What do you send?
[22:14:51] <Lastwebpage> <presence to="jabber@conference.jabber.org"> <priority>0</priority> <c xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/caps" node="http://miranda-im.org/caps" ver="0.9.10.0" ext="cmds mood tune activity mir_notes" /> <x xmlns="vcard-temp:x:update"> <photo>22a10a50a4f4b0fd8e209428c705fcde5cf35aa3</photo> </x> <show>away</show> <status>status text</status> </presence>
[22:17:19] <MattJ> You need to send to jabber@conference.jabber.org/yournick
[22:17:43] <Lastwebpage> :| okay, thanks
[22:18:19] <Lastwebpage> maybe you know the XEP for this too? ;)
[22:18:29] <MattJ> !xep 45
[22:18:38] <MattJ> Oh well, you'll find it :)
[22:19:05] <Lastwebpage> okay, thanks. I will write a bug report.
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[22:22:53] <MattJ> Lastwebpage, http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#changepres
[22:23:28] <Lastwebpage> yup
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[22:29:18] <Lastwebpage> yeap works with /Nickname
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