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[05:13:22] <coolidge51614> hi ppl
[05:13:40] <coolidge51614> anyone here?
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[10:03:40] <Mati> I'm here
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[10:03:52] <Kev> I'm not.
[10:04:36] <Mati> Kev, good to know, now I can finally use this channel to talk bad about you behind your back
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[15:31:27] <reagan42547> i can't register my account in miranda get error: connection lost
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[18:24:17] <khaledakraa> hii
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[18:33:37] <Mike T.> Hello - Could anyone point me in the right direction to get the passwords on a couple of jabber accounts I created reset. However I'd prefer not to broadcast the full account names to everyone. Thanks
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[18:34:30] <Kev> The instructions for that are on the jabber.org website.
[18:34:57] <Kev> The person who deals with resets is very busy, so it probably takes a while.
[18:35:15] <Kev> Why do you want them reset?
[18:35:18] <Mike T.> No response to email (2-3 weeks ago..?)
[18:35:57] <Kev> (Is it because you forgot the password, or because you chose a password that doesn't seem to work)
[18:36:41] <Mike T.> Because I can't remember them..
[18:37:16] <Kev> If you resend the email, CCing me, I'll see if I can help.
[18:37:49] <Mike T.> Kev@jabber.org ..?
[18:37:55] <Kev> kevin@kismith.co.uk
[18:38:26] <Kev> Even the sysadmins don't tend to use jabber.org email accounts (well, apart from Peter, and even he doesn't much anymore)
[18:38:42] <Kev> Addresses, I should say, they're forwards in any case.
[18:40:11] <Mike T.> No problem - on it's way...
[18:42:01] <Mike T.> Your comment 'because you chose a password that doesn't seem to work' suggests that there may be some characters to avoid when setting a password..?
[18:42:30] <Kev> The sign-up form over-escapes a couple of characters, I forget which.
[18:42:39] <Kev> Changing it inband is fine.
[18:43:09] <MattJ> Does it still? :/
[18:43:28] <Kev> MattJ: Unless you've changed it in the last couple of weeks.
[18:43:54] <MattJ> I haven't
[18:44:36] <Mike T.> That might make sense, unfortunately after a few months I can't remember if the password ever worked or not...
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[18:48:56] <Kev> Done.
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[19:03:29] <Mike T.> Many thanks Kev
[19:03:48] <Kev> np.
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[20:06:10] <taylor23796> there is a warning that xep-0186 is deffered
[20:06:22] <taylor23796> is there another xep that is recommended?
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[20:06:57] <Kev> 186 is the best we currently have to offer.
[20:07:18] <Kev> What Deferred means is that the spec was Experimental, and hasn't been updated in 12 months.
[20:07:29] <Kev> It's not a Council action like Deprecating is.
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[20:07:51] <taylor23796> what about 126?
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[20:08:25] <Kev> I wouldn't touch 126, but I wouldn't touch 16 if I could avoid it either.
[20:08:33] <Kev> 186 and 191 is the way forward for those things, I think.
[20:09:19] <taylor23796> ok. I'll use 126
[20:09:23] <taylor23796> sorry. 186
[20:09:31] <Kev> What are you implementing?
[20:09:46] <taylor23796> invisible presence, similar to gmail chat
[20:09:48] <waqas> /me wonders how good the server support for 186 is
[20:09:52] <Kev> Yes, but in client or server?
[20:09:57] <taylor23796> both
[20:09:58] <Kev> waqas: Prosody does 186 doesn't it?
[20:09:59] <taylor23796> custom
[20:10:06] <Kev> If you're doing both, 186 is certainly the way to go.
[20:10:12] <waqas> Kev: Not yet, no.
[20:10:12] <taylor23796> cool. thanks
[20:10:17] <Kev> IMHO YMMV, IANAL BBQ.
[20:10:40] <taylor23796> I only understood the first word
[20:13:10] <Kev> In my Humble Opinion
[20:13:14] <Kev> Your Mileage May Vary
[20:13:18] <Kev> Then I was being silly
[20:13:21] <Kev> I am not a laywer
[20:13:26] <Kev> Barbeque
[20:22:07] <andyhelp> hi
[20:23:09] <andyhelp> I'm looking for a room lists on conference.jabber.org server, my IM doesn't seem to be able to fetch it
[20:23:27] <Kev> Probably your server is blocking it, because there are so many rooms.
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[20:23:42] <Kev> (Although most are empty)
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[20:23:43] <waqas> /me rerequests a room cleanup
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[20:24:09] <Kev> waqas: and if that were a trivial thing, I'd do it.
[20:24:29] <waqas> Yes, but requesting is a trivial thing, so... :)
[20:24:59] <andyhelp> is this list available somewhere on the web?
[20:25:04] <Kev> No.
[20:26:10] <andyhelp> thanks Kev
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[20:29:49] <Kev> waqas: looking at /gentili.nicola, I'd guess Google haven't entirely sorted out their MUC problems.
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